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    Default Font in Xara <> Browser

    Hi,

    i am trying to make a webdesign completely in Xara.

    http://666kb.com/i/ba5k5raff2y0gt3ic.png

    The (small) Font never looks the same in the Browser.
    In Xara it looks much more softened. Is there a possibility to change that in Xara?
    Last edited by sparcx; 27 June 2009 at 07:49 AM. Reason: e-mail notify

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    Default Re: Font in Xara <> Browser

    What font are you using sparcx?
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    Default Re: Font in Xara <> Browser

    ok. i forgot to say:

    i am more a beginner to Xara than to Webdesign.
    In Both, Xara an the Website displayed in Firefox Verdana 13px, Line Height 16 px is used.

    But it is the same with all other websafe fonts e.g. arial.

    Font seems to be displayed in an other way in xara. bolder.

    so i wonder if there is any way, to change to a more browser like look.


    Quote Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill View Post
    What font are you using sparcx?

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    Default Re: Font in Xara <> Browser

    Quote Originally Posted by sparcx View Post
    In Xara it looks much more softened. Is there a possibility to change that in Xara?
    All browsers use their own font rendering. Tried Safari? Although version 4 has changed a little for the better (for Windows users) the Safari browser renders fonts much softer than other browsers.

    So long as you stick to web safe fonts and whole pixel sizes, your text will display pretty much the same in all browsers albeit for individual browser rendering differences.

    As far as making Xara text look like browsers, only the 'preview' will do this (using IE engine). Otherwise you are looking at a vector application, not a browser - all graphics apps show fonts differently
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    Default Re: Font in Xara <> Browser

    The reason is that Xtreme uses it's own font rendering engine. We do our best to make the overal size of the text similar to the browser but the precise outlook may differ.
    As Steve points out, different browsers can also use different rendering engines resulting in slight outlook differences.
    As long we talk about officially supported browsers, on Windows platform - IE, FF and Opera use Windows text rendering engine, Safari uses it's own, same as on MacOs. In Safari you can control the level of the font antialiasing thus making text look differently. In Windows you can turn antialiasing off resulting in IE, FF and Opera rendering pixelated fonts.
    On other platforms (MacOs, Linux, mobile devices) different text rendering engines are used.
    As the result, we can not make it look exactly the same as in all browsers.
    John.

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    Default Re: Font in Xara <> Browser

    In my experience, FF has always been quite different by default to IE/Opera and now Chrome and Safari.
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    Default Re: Font in Xara <> Browser

    Steve, in your example, what font size do you use?
    FF has different font size rounding rules thn IE, but if it actually renders text using the same font size as IE, it looks identical.
    The font size is always rounded to the whole pixels. In your example I see that FF is using larger font size, thus I suppose you have set not the whole pixel size font in your design.

    [edit] I think it's a fragment from the demo template?


    It's easy to see which browser uses Windows engine - disable antialiasing in Windoes and you'll see.
    Besides the mentioned font size rounding issue, there are many other differences in how browsers interpret text properties in HTML. So that even browsers that use the same text engine may produce different results, even though the same characters looks identically. But that's another long story.
    Last edited by covoxer; 27 June 2009 at 09:08 AM.
    John.

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    Default Re: Font in Xara <> Browser

    Ok, it is a demo page. But, here's how it looks in my FF (3.0.11).
    As you see it's the same as IE. The font sizes used are 12px and 14px which are not rounded and thus are supposed to look the same in all Windows text engine based browsers.
    Perhaps you have some settings changed in your FF Steve?
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