great feedback, I`m a fan of both softwares, some things are better faster in either, when I think of the effects I want, knowing how fast and experimental I can use gradated transparencies and feathered edges in xara to make effects, surfaces, it feels painful in illustrator, but I use illy because the I like the drawing tools, wish the illustrator team would bump heads with xara to help them import cleanly but I guess that`s competition. I`m of the mindset both companies would benefit from the shared collaboration if they think about it.