Questiion/How To: Is there a way to trigger a PopUp Photo from another object?

[jclements]

pbready THANKS.

And I just got my eyes checked and a new prescription.

[jclements]

I finished some testing and here's what I found regard Naming things. Some things may be "as designed" or not. Feedback from "those who know" will be appreciated.

The procedure described above works on solitary objects just fine. You can click on the link or the PopUp object.

Hard Groups
- The name was applied to only the Group entity, not the individuals in the group.
- You can click on the link or the group and all members of the group are pop up altogther at once.
- When ungrouped, the name is removed. Members of the group are not left with the name either.

Soft Groups
- The name was applied to the Soft Group AND members of the group.
- Clicking on the link only pops up one member in the group, the lowest (first) in the stacking order relative to other members of the group. I wish there was a way to pop up all members at once.
- Clicking directly on an individual member of the group, pops up that member only.
- Ungrouping the soft group, leaves the name assigned to each and every member of the group.

Removing Names of objects with multiple objects in a Selection
If you select many objects in hopes of removing/cleaning up the names rapidly and the Names Applied box indicates <Many>, the Remove button is grayed-out. I understand why this is beneficial, but there will be times when you need to quickly clean up the objects' names[COLOR=black]; currently you're left with tabbing from object to object to delete their names. My preference would be to enable the Remove button when <Many> is shown, and have it give a warning prompt and a chance to cancel or accept. ... I suppose if there were a name gallery, you could use it to target a specific name and then remove the name from the objects.

[covoxer]

The procedure described above works on solitary objects just fine.

You were asking for solitary gallery pop up objects only, for the other cases the code could be different.

Hard Groups

Hard groups are exported as a single image.

Soft Groups

According to W3C it is not allowed to have multiple objects with the same ID in html file. So, if you apply identical names to multiple objects, only single occurance is exported and all others are ignored.

My preference would be to enable the Remove button when <Many> is shown, and have it give a warning prompt and a chance to cancel or accept

Good point.

[jclements]

"According to W3C it is not allowed to have multiple objects with the same ID in html file. So, if you apply identical names to multiple objects, only single occurance is exported and all others are ignored."

So would it hurt then to apply the Name only to the Soft Group and not to its members ... just like is done for Hard Groups?

[covoxer]

Hard group is exported as a single image.
Soft group is exported as a number of images, some of them may be inside the hidden layers (rollovers) e.t.c.

[jclements]

Can't blame a guy for tryin'. You could dump the W3C for the JSC (JSClements)

[covoxer]

But why do you want to give the same name to all objects in soft group? Do you want multiple image pop ups to fire simultaneously? Because this can't work anyway, you can see only one prview at a time.
If it's something else, tell me, perhaps there is another solution that don't require setting names for a soft group.

[jclements]

Thats the point, I don't want to give the members the same name. I want the advantage of Soft Groups which is to keep members on different Layers, but only apply the name to the "shell" of the group (the way names are applied to Hard Groups).

This would have two advantages:

1- When a link or the Soft Group is clicked, the entire Soft Group would popup.

2- The other advantage would be when the Group is ungrouped you would not have all of its ex-members with the same name.

Oh, there is a 3rd advantage:
I could have my cake and eat it too.

[covoxer]

Thats the point. I want the advantage Soft Groups which is to keep members on different Layers, but only apply the name to the "shell" of the group (the way names are applied to Hard Groups).

Well, think about a hard group as a single image. Because it is. It's a single png file. It's embedded as a single <img> element within html and it is located in a single place in document by means of layers.

1- When a link is clicked the entire Soft Group would popup.

How can you imagine this? Pop ups are layers, not am arbitrary sets of objects spread over all possible levels of the document. The gallery pop ups are a single images, they can't be popped up for multiple images simultaneously. Just imageine multiple preview windows visible at the same time.

[jclements]

Well the workings of HTML is new to me so I'm sure your explanation will sink in and become clearer to me as I deal with various situations.

However, doesn't it seem a bit messy that when a Soft Group is ungrouped all of its members will have the same name? Would you not want revert their names (if they had any) back to the way they were before a name was applied to the soft group? Again, could this be a situation where the user could be prompted upon ungrouping if they wanted the soft group name to be stripped from the members or not?

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Why I bring this all this up is I would probably be importing old isometric illustrations composed of LOTS of objects and/or layers and PopingUp various sets of objects in a certain sequence to enhance the process description of "How it works". This would be the bulk of the task for those pages. In general, Soft groups should significantly reduce the chances of having to reorganize things onto new layers (very time consuming) and I am thankful for that.