web site validation

[suunto]

is it necessary to have website validation 100%

i've recently been test the validation of my pages in dreamweaver and they are ok apart from the ones where i have paypal buttons and radio buttons, does this mean that for some people browsing they wouldnt' see my buttons because of the errors?

i'm doing a whole new site and need radio buttons and paypal buttons but if this code does bring up errors then i need to look again and see how to do it so it does validate

here is the code if anyone is interested to see why it doesn't validate?

<script language="javascript">
function GetSelectedItem() {

chosen = ""
len = document.myform.os0.length

for (i = 0; i <len; i++) {
if (document.myform.os0[i].checked) {
chosen = document.myform.os0[i].value
}
}

if (chosen == "3/4 x 4") {
 document.myform.amount.value = 3.99;
 document.myform.item_name.value = "3/4 x 4 Arrow Wraps X 12 + 1 Free";
    }
if (chosen == "1 x 4") {
 document.myform.amount.value = 3.99;
 document.myform.item_name.value = "1 x 4 Arrow Wrap X 12 + 1 Free";
    }        
if (chosen == "1 x 7") {
 document.myform.amount.value = 4.49;
 document.myform.item_name.value = "1 x 7 Arrow Wrap X 12 + 1 Free";
    }
if (chosen == "1.25 x 7") {
 document.myform.amount.value = 4.49;
 document.myform.item_name.value = "1.25 x 7 Arrow Wrap X 12 + 1 Free";
    }        


}


</script>
			<form target="paypal" method="post" name="myform" action="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr">
				<input type="hidden" name="item_name" value="5/8 x 4">
				<input type="hidden" name="amount" value="3.99">
				<input type="hidden" name="on0" value="Colour">
				<p align="left">
				<input name="os0" type="radio" value="5/8 x 4"><font size="2">5/8&quot; x 4&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
				£3.99 
				</font> <br>
				<input name="os0" type="radio" value="3/4 x 4"><font size="2">3/4&quot; x 4&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
				£3.99 
				</font> <br>
				<input name="os0" type="radio" value="1 x 4"><font size="2">1&quot; x 4&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
				£3.99 
				</font> <br>
				<input name="os0" type="radio" value="1 x 7"><font size="2">1&quot; x 7&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
				£4.49 </font><br>
				<input name="os0" type="radio" value="1.25 x 7"><font size="2">1.25&quot; 
				x 7&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; £4.49 </font><br>
				<br>
				&nbsp;<select name="os0">
				<option value="Red">Red</option>
				<option value="Orange">Orange</option>
				<option value="Yellow">Yellow</option>
				<option value="Green">Green</option>
				<option value="Blue">Blue</option>
				<option value="Pink">Pink</option>
				<option value="Violet">Violet</option>
				<option value="Silver">Silver</option>
				<option value="White">White</option>
				</select><br>
				<img alt="" border="0" src="Page8files/pixel.gif" width="1" height="1">
				<input type="hidden" name="add" value="1">
				<input type="hidden" name="cmd" value="_cart">
				<input type="hidden" name="business" value="Payments@quickstandarchery.co.uk">
				<input type="hidden" name="page_style" value="PayPal">
				<input type="hidden" name="no_shipping" value="2">
				<input type="hidden" name="return" value="http://www.quickstandarchery.co.uk/page8.html">
				<input type="hidden" name="currency_code" value="GBP">
				<input type="hidden" name="lc" value="UK">
				<input type="hidden" name="bn" value="PP-ShopCartBF">
				<input type="image" src="Page8files/x-click-but22.gif" border="0" name="submit" onClick="GetSelectedItem()" alt="Please choose color and size" align="left" hspace="2" width="87" height="23"></p>
			</form>

[haakoo]

When using FF,it has a webdeveloper bar as add on ( http://chrispederick.com/work/web-developer/ )
It shows directly the validation in this bar.
The css must be validated and the html, so it's correct to show in all mainstream browsers.
But javascript will never pass because variables you cannot validate
But you can learn from the warnings and adjust them.
The warnings usually show recommendations.
If you got errors,now there is something wrong and it might not work.
(FYI:some programs or scripters allready use new CSS-3 features that are not going to be validated in CSS-2)

Hans

[Suvek]

Most browsers (all?) will probably handle these errors and display everything "correctly", they usually accept deprecated elements, attributes and other things that are not part of the specification in case of HTML 4.01.

For example usage of FONT element is not valid, attributes like BORDER are not used (use css instead) etc. I dont know dreamweaver and how it performs validation but that validation within FF or W3C web validator give you comments and explanations so you get an idea how to correct errors. It's really often just use of deprecated elements or something like that.

[suunto]

thanks guys i appreciate your replies

i've used the first website that comes up with the search 'validation' on google and tried a few websites with it........talkgraphics gets one error so that very good but ebay uk gets 223 errors and amazon get 1479 so it must be like you say Suvek the browser can handle them and display everything correctly

[Manwe]

is it necessary to have website validation 100%

i've recently been test the validation of my pages in dreamweaver and they are ok apart from the ones where i have paypal buttons and radio buttons, does this mean that for some people browsing they wouldnt' see my buttons because of the errors?

i'm doing a whole new site and need radio buttons and paypal buttons but if this code does bring up errors then i need to look again and see how to do it so it does validate

It is not necessary to have 100% valid code, but it ensures functionality. Also, I think that xhtml might not work out properly if it's not valid, as xhtml is more strict than other languages.
Ofcourse, if you look at some of the most popular pages on the net, they are not 100% valid, but also note that most of them display a little differently from browser to browser.

If you are looking for a good tool for validation, I'd suggest Total Validator as it is an downloadable tool you can install to your browser to validate all pages, even if you don't have net.
I find this very handy as I run XAMPP and test all my pages in FireFox before I upload them.

[suunto]

thanks Manwe
this is starting to give me a headache as i don't know how to alter the code to correct the errors plus it sounds like you know a lot more about this that me and your site on your link has 13 errors and 26 here
http://="http://validator.w3.org/che...Inline&group=0

how can you get a site to validate 100%

[Manwe]

this is starting to give me a headache as i don't know how to alter the code to correct the errors

Which is why I suggested Total Validator, as it gives you more spesific information on the errors. It still requires you to read some to correct the errors, but after an hour or two, you'll know what's wrong at most errors.

plus it sounds like you know a lot more about this that me and your site on your link has 13 errors and 26 here
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ww...Inline&group=0

how can you get a site to validate 100%

Hehe, two reasons for that;
1: Most of those errors come from the domain (dot.tk) where I cannot change the code.
2: I gave up on that site a little while ago, and are working on making a new one, which will validate
Thorbear's Homepage Remake

[suunto]

thanks, i think it is the paypal code which is causing all the prolems and when i change it the buttons aren't working properly

can anyone suggest an alternative easy payment method to add to my site?
Thanks

[diyaldin]

Making full error free site is impossible I guess if you are using any CMS e.g wordpress if you use HTML or static site then it can be possible.

[gwpriester]

@diyalden - Last response in this thread was on 08 June 2008. Today is 11 November 2014.