Xara Xtreme verison 4

[JokeArtist]

Another Day ... Another Pointless Release Of Xara !!!!

Yawn-o-rama!

No New Vector Tools And Some Slight Alterations And Some Crap To Keep The Hobbists Happy!!!!

Wow What A Leap Forward They Integrate Xara 3d Into Xara .... Big Wow.

I'll Keep My Money!

[handrawn]

but at least it impressed you enough you felt you had to comment

your money - your choice

I am sure your work will survive

[JokeArtist]

but at least it impressed you enough you felt you had to comment

The word is not impressed the word is dissappointed.

I do believe that Xara Ltd have truly lost their way over the last 2-3 years - spending valuable resources developing rubbish to bolt on to a good product rather than updating the product itself. FLASH / HTML?! Come off it.

I remember when it was Xara Studio and I seem to remember there was a red old school TVR sports car on the cover of the box (or at least something that looked like an English sports car). To me what they've effectively done is 'tuned/pimped' that car but neon lights on it, tacky spoilers, spinning 20" rims and painted it in two-tone paint in the direct they've taken it. Rather than updated the older model to a TVR Tuscan!!! Some that works better but does what it set out to do in the first place. Be the most innovative vector package out there.

Live Effect - Pointless 'RASTER' tosh you can do in photoshop.
Xara 3D Integration - More 'RASTER' tosh!
Image Editor Integration - 'RASTER' rubbish.

Xara might be the fastest vector package out there but actually do some updates to the vector tools!



Oh one last thing ...
'4' contours you still haven't sorted that out!!!! But it doesn't supprise me.

[handrawn]

Hi quickdraw

defined in the licence - here is a relevant extract from xara xtreme pro 4:

You are permitted to:

1. load or download the Software and use it only on a single client computer which is under your personal control;

2. transfer the Software from one computer to another provided it is used on only one computer at any one time;

.......

You are not permitted:

(a) to use the Software on any computer or system which permits electronic access to it by more than one user;

[pauland]

It's not really a good licence for a lot of people. I used to have a desktop machine and a laptop (my laptop has mostly taken over) and I'm used to installing the same software on both. I understand that the licence is stopping two people using the software at the same time, but it doesn't take into account the changing lifestyles of a lot of people.

My Adobe software can be installed on my desktop and laptop..

Paul

(Edit - reading the licence again, 1 and 2 almost seem contradictory )

[steve.ledger]

Agreed Paul

By the way, my version 3.2 has the very same EULA

[FLySOLO]

to the skin ui discussion:

just build the app as it is and add a ressource folder with all bitmaps used in the app. if someone alters a bitmap in the folder it will be used by xara.

simple thing,

FLy

[willdean]

But traditional Windows apps don't load all the graphics from on-disk bitmaps, they load from application resources which are compiled at the same time as the rest of the application code. And traditional Windows resource bitmaps are often composites of lots of little bitmaps.
Clearly it's by no means impossible to do what you're saying, but it's by no means a 'simple thing'.

[pauland]

It's also a potential support nightmare as button X doesn't display, or only a corner of it. A screen snapshot then looks like something tech support have never seen before!

[FLySOLO]

ok i admit that i have done some skinning before in windowblinds and therfore i'm not shocked by the number of bitmaps an app consists of.

i've already been looking into the dlll and the bitmaps with peexplorer and reshacker but i'm not very comfortable to edit program code.

there are lots of apps that have a built in skin and that can load a set of bitmaps optionally like trillian ...

of course this is nothing for the not-skinning user. and i wouldn't present it as a feature. it would just be there and some talented people would build some nice skins for free :b.

if you just dislike one or two buttons you can change them without hacking.



bb,

FLy