Xaralx progress!

[SorinN]

about Cairo,

it's a work in progress, and they work hard inside of it's core - each new version it's a visible step forward (at least for me). Indeed is slow maybe for now but the sky is the limit here on the Open Source side. Time is on the Open Source side.

On closed source work flow - it's not so easy, limited number of engineers, other specifications, other timeframe, etc ..for example ask Charles Moir how much time take for Xara Dev. team to get CDraw as is right now.

Also - as I said before - which professional designer need to work with free software ? Why I care about Cairo, if XaraXtreme Pro for Linux could give me what I need, I don't care about the rendering engine. My scope is to do my job - not to use free tools for professional grade work.

Inkscape, Gimp - are wonderful tools now - but becoming Pro tools ( in paralel with free versions ) they can get a quick advance ( mode dedicate developers, a precise production roadmap, etc ). I don't see any harm here.

Free Inkscape, Xara, Gimp for teaching and for homework - Inkscape Pro, XaraXtreme Pro, Gimp Pro - for professional DTP / Webdesign work.

That's the correct, sane way.

[Avatar]

You don't see the point..

It's not only about the software, but about the ethics beyond it.

The purpouse is to have a Free (as Freedom of Speech) Pro tools, that's the point. Nothing Less.

The double solution you're talking of doesn't work in this philosophy

Need pro tools in Free Software? Let's give a hand to the developers no?

tell me your p.o.w. ^^

[remi]

What do you think are the ethics behind Free software?

(I wish there were also free food, free apartments, free cars and free cinema films available.)

Remi

[con]

(I wish there were also free food, free apartments, free cars and free cinema films available.)

So do I, but that has nothing to do with OSS. What is free software?

[remi]

I know the fine differences, but in practice it's nearly the same as "free beer":

"You may have paid money to get copies of free software, or you may have obtained copies at no charge. But regardless of how you got your copies, you always have the freedom to copy and change the software, even to sell copies."
[source: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html]

That means, if Coca Cola would deliver me their soft drink together with their recipe (open source), I would be able to change their recipe or leave it the same and sell my own product with it. Personally I have no problem, if they would decide to do something like that, but I'm not sure how much employees would be fired after that. Not every freedom comes without a price.

Remi

[con]

Yes! Exactly! And when coca cola co. decide not to support your bottle of coke anymore, and instead are trying to get you to buy coca cola version 2.1 which doesnt offer any advantage, you can make bugfixes for it yourself or hire someone else to do it. Isnt that Great?

[remi]

Isnt that Great?

No, I would prefer to be the owner of Coca Cola and get some millions (billions?) from another company, which would like to buy my company and not, that the whole world could use my (hard) work and make money with it (for nothing).

Remi