Jim

I wrote a long message and then decided it was senseless.

I also tried copying some of my Photopshop compatible filters into Illustrator's Plug-ins > Photoshop filters folder. But I cannot access them in Illustrator and their Help files were no help.

Sorry if I confused you. I'm confused enough myself.

I could tell you how to do this in Xara Designer Pro, which is my drawing application of choice, but that would mean nothing to you.

Unless you get a copy of Xara Designer Pro 7