Vase

**TwidderBird** · 25 May 2006, 10:09 PM

IN PROGRESS
it has taken tons of time and tedius work to get this shape just how I wanted it. using the selector-info bar {x / y} {w / H } and various 'combine shapes'. is there a simpler way to accomplish the same thing?

and as you can see--in combining the 2 shapes it has left a line that remains part of the outline (that goes away when no line color is selected) can anyone help me in how do I remove that part of the outline.....end result: all one fill color and an outline that does NOT include the obvious unwanted line? thanks
nance

**Seagull** · 25 May 2006, 10:24 PM

Hi Nance

I just downloaded your vase jpg, took my shape editor tool and just redrew it. Took only a minute and got the result you may be looking for. Mind you, since I am seriously lacking talent and imagaination, I cheat.....I use plugins and anything else so your probably best off to ignore me!

**jamesmc** · 25 May 2006, 10:36 PM

The way I do that is to leave the original with the lines, do a control K (clone shape or line) and then click none on line width. It leaves a perfect replica of the shape sans the lines. Make sure you group the shapes first.

You can see the clone of the shape on the right with no lines. Or you can simply make the line color the same as the fill color. Doing it the last way preserves the original dimensions of your art.

**molucca** · 25 May 2006, 11:13 PM

Nance,

If you draw a circle and a line and group them, then drag the circle toward the line, you can get correct perspective.

Rich

**TwidderBird** · 26 May 2006, 12:32 AM

Rich thanks for the perspective tip

James...how simple--same fill color with line color. ultimately that is how it will end up. it will include perspective, gradient, and transparency. the present render tho threw me........ a black clone with 0 line width--thanks, I think I'll experiment with that

Seagull, a good idea too. I do really appreciate your comment on 'cheating'. doing art without a computer first I TRULY felt that digital art was just plain cheating

thanks guys

nance
oh, I am in the habit up looking up at birds

--be kind Seagull

**TwidderBird** · 26 May 2006, 03:14 AM

vase IN PROGRESS
james, I tried both your ideas but unsucessfully. the only way I could see to make the line width at 0 was a 'button' on the selector toolbar that looked like -\ with the - as an arrow. and every clone attempt created the outline. wouldn't be surprized if I was doing sumthing wrong

Seagull, I tried your idea and the below is the result. it did take additional time and additional tedius work BUT I did accomplish what I wanted.

now--it appears on the left side of the vase there is some remnant of a line?? for the sake of learning anybody know how I can get rid of that? thanks
nance
ps: oh, I see it's also partially on the right side as well

**jamesmc** · 26 May 2006, 04:20 AM

Here's how you use the Color Editor for a fill of a line or a shape with color.

There are a couple of other ways to do this as well.

Another way I talked about previously was to set the line to none after you clone your shape. Example is in the second image.

**TwidderBird** · 26 May 2006, 06:35 AM

OK. I'm fairly familiar with the color editor. but pointing out the line width and the 0 option on the scrolldown-- know about that too, but have rarely used it b4 (the 0 line width). of course using it in that manner per your instructions didn't occur to me

.....

have discovered that the 'off' color in the outline might be related to setting the page color orange. be interesting to see how it goes without that
thankyou

**parahandy** · 26 May 2006, 09:07 AM

my effort, just drew a wide line round image and filled with appropriate colour
the apparent line on the right may be an optical illusion caused by the orange colour.