I don't mean to rain on parades, but serious people please listen!

[Grafixman]

http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif. I like this one, Mike.
"Just doo it!" Great catchphrase, Ross. I think I'll make a banner out of it and hang it somewhere. Talk about deep shit.

[RTK]

I can't see why how something was made matters in any way? Suffering, and thousands of hours of agony doesn't necessaraly make something more interesting to a viewer. The creator might get more satisfaction out of finishing something like that, but a viewer will just see the end result. All that matters in the end, is the finished piece. If it looks interesting - more power to you!

Shawn, I fail to see the point you are trying to make?

Risto

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[RAMWolff44]

Hmmm, if I didn't know any better I would swear those looked like ice cream, sans the cones!! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif <sic>

But I must say I do like the hand done one better, looks like French Vanilla to me!! <sic>

No I don't play with substances like that!! YUK!! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Richard http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

http://www.ramwolffsworld.com//Publi..._Prowl_sig.gif

http://www.ramwolffsworld.com/RAMWolffsWorld

[Grafixman]

True, being told what should or should not be done gets me irritated too. But then I'd start doing the very same thing in return. Curious reaction, huh? http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Shawn, are you reading this, or do you just post a topic and forget about it entirely?
I said earlier that I would not go into what and what is not art, but it's something to think about, too. To me, art is expressing yourself. Like speaking, or singing and dancing, or drawing. Some gets paid a lot of money for it, some starve. But we do it because we like it.
As for computer/traditional artwork, consider this:

http://home.pchome.com.tw/art/grafixman/shitart.gif

Something to think about, too.

Risto, I like your style. The longer you look at them, the more you discover.

[Mike Bailey]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> They might think it is crap - it might even be crap!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[OklaEd]

Very nice Risto. Mr. Hanky would approve http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
-Ed.

[Ross Macintosh]

I rather like the virtual crap. I also like that since it was created so quickly its creator has time available to produce even more! (More crap that is. http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif )

I find my views very similar to Risto on this subjects of this thread.

This debate reminded me that there are "artists" and "critics" who have trouble with those who paint with acrylics vs. oils. There are even people who believe the true artist must make his or her own paints! IMHO techniques and tools are ultimately irrelevant. What is really interesting is human expression and what we are able to communicate to one another. It is joyful to create, and to experience, emotions & ideas being expressed by lines, tones, and colours. Whether they are created with pixels, paint, graphite, or blood, it doesn't matter if there is communication.

Regards, Ross

[RTK]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Grafixman: ... but I wouldn't throw insults at him.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
--- Right you are about that - really bad choice of words on my part. http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

It does get me going when people voice what other people should or should not do - what is worthy and what is not - who should have a title and who should not - what is good enough to be posted and what is not... Blanket statements about what other people do, or should do, is not all that 'nice.'

Risto

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[Grafixman]

Wow Risto, now THIS is fit to hang on a wall.
Post one shitty topic and it gets buried in it.

[Ross Macintosh]

Mike, after you were finished what did you use to clean the scanner?? http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Actually I think it is rather cool in a spooky sort of way. It communicates something...plus it is a signed work.

Regards, Ross