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  1. #1
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    Just in case the FTP idea is causing you problems. . .

    OK,

    1. To post a picture within the text of your message, you have to have web space somewhere.
    2. If, for some reason, you don't have web space with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) there are places like www.geocities.com or www.xoom.com that give you free space for a website. The free services almost always have a program to help you build a web page (and help you load your images onto their computer (server)). I remember that geocities wanted the stuff in your web site to be available to the public (no secret passwords) and they didn't want you to use their site to just to house your files so the web site should have a link to the images you plan to share with us.
    3. If you do have web space with your ISP then, you should get a good FTP program like WS FTP (I've always liked this one) or CuteFTP (a highly recommended FTP program). You can download either of these shareware programs from www.tucows.com . You may have to ask your Internet Service Provider (ISP) how you set up the FTP program. I used to use WS-FTP but I started to use the FTP program within Macromedia Dreamweaver.
    4. Now, I use my FTP program to make the directory in my web space (with dreamweaver, it is drag and drop -- very easy :-)). I also like to leave the directory without an index.html file so that the server will generate a page with a list of the files in the directory for me. (that is why it is normally a good habit to have an index.html file in directories where you don't want snoops :-) )
    5. At this point, I navigate to my web site, and specifically go to my special paintutor directory. The server pulls up a page and calls it the index of the paintutor directory and lo . . . I have a list of my images. If I can't remember what I named the images, I can right mouse click the hyperlink to my image and tell my browser to open in a new window and verify my image. Then I right mouseclick in the URL window and copy the URL to my image. By copying the URL, the URL is placed in my windows clipboard.
    6. Now, in the browser window that you have open to the message you are writing, there is a group of buttons to the bottom right hand section that is named UBB. Select the UBB image button.

      This will bring up a window that starts with http:// this should also pop up with the http selected so go ahead and right mouse click (once again,) and paste the URL that you had placed in your windows clipboard.
    7. Hopefully, if everything went right, you will see your image within the text of your message (instead of as an attachment).


    Reminder, if you don't have web space to house images, then you're doomed to attaching your images to the end of the message (and the image will have a little paperclip showing it is an attachment at the end of your message).


    Also, if any of your efforts to insert an image melt down (while you're cooking soup or your computer [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] ) then please tell me at which number in the above steps the meltdown begins. You can e-mail me or post a question here. (remember if you post a question here, other people with the same question will also get the benefit of the question -- and hopefully the answer also).

    Good luck posting!

    Athena

    [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
    Athena
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  2. #2
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    Just in case the FTP idea is causing you problems. . .

    OK,

    1. To post a picture within the text of your message, you have to have web space somewhere.
    2. If, for some reason, you don't have web space with your Internet Service Provider (ISP) there are places like www.geocities.com or www.xoom.com that give you free space for a website. The free services almost always have a program to help you build a web page (and help you load your images onto their computer (server)). I remember that geocities wanted the stuff in your web site to be available to the public (no secret passwords) and they didn't want you to use their site to just to house your files so the web site should have a link to the images you plan to share with us.
    3. If you do have web space with your ISP then, you should get a good FTP program like WS FTP (I've always liked this one) or CuteFTP (a highly recommended FTP program). You can download either of these shareware programs from www.tucows.com . You may have to ask your Internet Service Provider (ISP) how you set up the FTP program. I used to use WS-FTP but I started to use the FTP program within Macromedia Dreamweaver.
    4. Now, I use my FTP program to make the directory in my web space (with dreamweaver, it is drag and drop -- very easy :-)). I also like to leave the directory without an index.html file so that the server will generate a page with a list of the files in the directory for me. (that is why it is normally a good habit to have an index.html file in directories where you don't want snoops :-) )
    5. At this point, I navigate to my web site, and specifically go to my special paintutor directory. The server pulls up a page and calls it the index of the paintutor directory and lo . . . I have a list of my images. If I can't remember what I named the images, I can right mouse click the hyperlink to my image and tell my browser to open in a new window and verify my image. Then I right mouseclick in the URL window and copy the URL to my image. By copying the URL, the URL is placed in my windows clipboard.
    6. Now, in the browser window that you have open to the message you are writing, there is a group of buttons to the bottom right hand section that is named UBB. Select the UBB image button.

      This will bring up a window that starts with http:// this should also pop up with the http selected so go ahead and right mouse click (once again,) and paste the URL that you had placed in your windows clipboard.
    7. Hopefully, if everything went right, you will see your image within the text of your message (instead of as an attachment).


    Reminder, if you don't have web space to house images, then you're doomed to attaching your images to the end of the message (and the image will have a little paperclip showing it is an attachment at the end of your message).


    Also, if any of your efforts to insert an image melt down (while you're cooking soup or your computer [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] ) then please tell me at which number in the above steps the meltdown begins. You can e-mail me or post a question here. (remember if you post a question here, other people with the same question will also get the benefit of the question -- and hopefully the answer also).

    Good luck posting!

    Athena

    [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
    Athena
    Our thoughts are bounded by words. The quality of those thoughts is largely determined by the words that compose them.
    IP

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    Ok,

    For those of you trying to do HTML to get the image inside of this message, don't.

    1. assuming you've got the web space part down, click this button

      http://boards.infopop.net/infopop/images1//image.gif

      you should get this dialog box
      http://www.nol.net/~athena/paintutor2/Imagebut.gif

      and enter your image's URL in the little dialog
      window. (either directly type this or cheat and use the cut and paste method)

      There is no need to make this image a hyperlink of any sort. I don't even know if it would work. Wait, I think Ross MacIntosh (hope I spelled his name right), in the early part of the xara forum did make an image a hyperlink. hmm. ok. (I know regular old HTML works in these messages, that's how I get my lists done -- HTML lists)

      a successful insertion will look like this when you're typing your message
      http://www.nol.net/~athena/paintutor2/Image2.gif

      the Plain Vanilla image URL will have these IMG letters surrounded by straight brackets -- much like HTML. Actually, you could probably skip the image button and type *img* and */img* inside of your standard HTML brakets *<>* and get the same effect. (haven't tried that one yet)
    2. if you cancel out of the above window, the innards of your message will look like this

      http://www.nol.net/~athena/paintutor2/Image3.gif

      and yes it will be at the bottom of the message so you'll have to cut and paste it in the right place.

      I don't like the fact that it places the UBB code at the bottom of my message screen but I guess the alternative would be more maddening if it put the code in wherever you left your cursor (sometimes carelessly) so we just can't win on that one.


    I like seeing pictures of what's going on. So hopefully this helped the image placement meltdowns.

    Please post here or write to me if you still have problems. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

    It took some experimentation for me to figure it out too [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] .

    Good Luck,

    Athena

    [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
    Athena
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    in hindsight, it's probably easiest to just click the UBB image button [img]http://boards.infopop.net/infopop/images1//image.gif</img> and then click the cancel button.

    to get this
    <IMG>http://www.nol.net/~athena/paintutor2/Image3.gif</IMG>

    then just replace the word null with whatevertheURLis

    This message should be a successful test of typing the standard HTML brackets and using IMG inside of them.

    Athena

    ok

    how 'bout this?

    http://boards.infopop.net/infopop/images1//image.gif

    and this?

    http://www.nol.net/~athena/paintutor2/Image3.gif

    geez it looks like its picky about the brackets. You have to use the straight brackets around *IMG* and */IMG*

    Lucky for me it's not picky about other HTML.
    [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

    Gadzooks! it's even more picky than I thought, be sure not to leave any spaces before or after your URL inside the *IMG* brackets.

    Athena

    [This message was edited by T. Athena Hatton on October 14, 2000 at 05:53 AM.

    [This message was edited by T. Athena Hatton on October 14, 2000 at 05:57 AM.]

    [This message was edited by T. Athena Hatton on October 14, 2000 at 06:02 AM.]
    Athena
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    in hindsight, it's probably easiest to just click the UBB image button http://boards.infopop.net/infopop/images1//image.gif and then click the cancel button.

    to get this
    http://www.nol.net/~athena/paintutor2/Image3.gif

    then just replace the word null with whatevertheURLis


    While a part of me was tempted to detonate the above message, I decided to leave it as an example of my own experimenting with the IMG from UBB

    Athena
    Athena
    Our thoughts are bounded by words. The quality of those thoughts is largely determined by the words that compose them.
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  6. #6
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    Hi Athena,
    I have spent to much time on this.I give up!!!!!
    The Great Spirit in the Sky has said unto me "It don't work".
    I will go along with Jinny and paste the URL in my post, or attach an image to it.
    I know you have spent some time trying to clear this up but I guess I am not holding my chin right.
    Thanks for trying to help.

    P.S. Darn near killed the "Ole Soup Cooker".

    [This message was edited by Monastic Bat on October 14, 2000 at 11:12 AM.]
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    Hi Athena,
    Well it finally worked.(see the Welcome string) Thank you for the help.I really did not intend for this to get to be such a head ache.
    I think a large part of the problem, aside from me not being a computer person, is this server.I am still getting error messages about 80% of the time.
    Enough of that, thanks again
    IP

 

 

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