I just got an email from ulead last night telling me Cool3D 3.5 was out, So I upgraded and fooled around with it. It has a new module with it called "EnVector" which exports 3D in vector.swf. I've noticed that the file size is HUGE! 1.6 meg. for a 20 frame swf is way too big, maybe I'm doing something wrong...We'll See. BTW, Yeah Thomas, I'd guess that makes me a sucker. I believe very strongly in Ulead products just as I do Xara Products. I also use Macromedia Flash 5.0, Corel Draw 9 and PhotoPaint 9,A whole crapload of Microsoft products, Adobe PhotoShop 6.0,WinZip 8.0 and about a hundred other products that have all been paid for and registered... Looks Like I'm REALLY LAME to you huh? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]