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the correlation of 'getting your ar*e into gear' and 'movement' does wonders for my imagination ;)

now I start to see KLA ....:eek: :D

and very visual yes

a lot more interest on the loan than in the logo :D

I applied for an amazon card so as to get a good discount on some kit; I sure a'int going to rack up any debt on it at over 20% apr....

what I meant was making the K taller interupts the flow - Boy has posted a very good example of that visual flow in use...as a logo [not type]

right thanks I see that; I don't agree, but I see it

it's a logo... it's visual

and actually from my point of view it has lovely symmetry - it flows, and it has parrallel diagonals and...

@ acorn forgive me, but what exactly is the diferrence? I don't see it in any meaningful way

I don't see KIA instinctivelty with the second, I see KN

the slice out of the bottom right of the A reflects the slice out of the top left of the K, I don't see anything wrong with the symmetry...