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it's the solution I chose, and you chose.... but rik's point, I am sure, is that he does not need to upgrade from version 17 - and so to pay every year, as you have to with pro + would be a waste of...

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sorry, the point I was really interested in was - is xara, on TG, interested in showcasing.. or are they just milking the free technical support

and I stress on TG ;)

when I said do they,...

yes.. but so where are we with pro+ then which has nothing to do with magix..... do they, xara, engage elsewhere ?

this does not surprise me... talk graphics has the feel of can you help me - oh thanks [if you are lucky] - 'bye - never mind arcane definitions of 'graphic', or 'art', TG is hardly anything more...

I paid 52,000 JP [from memory about 56 GBP at the time] for Paint Tool SAI in 2011 - since then the program has progressed from 32 to 64 bit and has had many new features and capabilities added;...