How do you delete text from a table?

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07 July 2020, 11:22 AM
xKnuckles

How do you delete text from a table?

Hello. I have just inserted table #9 into my website. I am having some success with it and have got it looking quite good, I believe. I filled the columns with text but there are some things there which I need to delete. I don't want any empty boxes after deleting something, so I need to be able to select all the text in the other boxes in the column and move them up one. I cannot find any way of selecting all the text. How can this be done?
Thank you.
07 July 2020, 11:37 AM
Acorn

Re: How do you delete text from a table?

Yellow dot on the left of the Row - grab that and move Left.
Yellow dot on the top of a Column - grab that and move Up.
Double-click the Table to get the Smart controls.

Are you talking Rows or Coulmns?

Acorn
07 July 2020, 02:08 PM
xKnuckles

Re: How do you delete text from a table?

Thanks Acorn....but I fear that this will not do what I need it to. My table is unusual in that it has three columns which are independent of each other. So if I delete an item from column 1, It has nothing to do with columns 2 & 3 and I want them left unchanged.

I would never wish to delete something from an entire row all at once.... So the row deletion idea will not help.
Is there any way of selecting just a series of boxes from one column and then moving them up or down (if I did this in the old program I used to use, I would select the text from all of that group of boxes, cut it and then paste it in the row above.)

Is there any way that I could do something like this? Or if that is not possible, could I remove all of the text from one column - so I could edit it elsewhere and then replace it - without deleting anything from the other columns?

It seems very odd to have a table where I can only access the text in one box at a time.
07 July 2020, 03:43 PM
Acorn

Re: How do you delete text from a table?
Quote:

Originally Posted by xKnuckles

Thanks Acorn....but I fear that this will not do what I need it to. My table is unusual in that it has three columns which are independent of each other. So if I delete an item from column 1, It has nothing to do with columns 2 & 3 and I want them left unchanged.

I would never wish to delete something from an entire row all at once.... So the row deletion idea will not help.
Is there any way of selecting just a series of boxes from one column and then moving them up or down (if I did this in the old program I used to use, I would select the text from all of that group of boxes, cut it and then paste it in the row above.)

Is there any way that I could do something like this? Or if that is not possible, could I remove all of the text from one column - so I could edit it elsewhere and then replace it - without deleting anything from the other columns?

It seems very odd to have a table where I can only access the text in one box at a time.

xK, welcome to the Smart?Table Appreciation Society.

I am not a fan.
- https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...ide-to-MS-Word
- https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...t-Tables-v16-0
- Still waiting, specifically, https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...632#post597632.
What you are asking for is a Swap with (Above, Below, Left, Right) function on a Cell to allow a nudge capability.

The best I can currently manipulate with Xara Smart Tables is Ctrl+Select all blank cells in a column touching the filled cell.
Merge then Select the merged cell and Unmerge and the filled cells' data has percolated up to the top.

here is a complex dance I can try and run you through.

For a Column
- Shift+Select all the Rows
- Merge [one cell with all text]
- Unmerge [restored cells with top one with all text]
- Select the merged Text with Ctrl+A & Ctrl+X [empty cell]
- Select the top cell
- Paste [data restored with blanks cells below]
Assumption: No linefeeds in cell data.

I leave the Row dance to yourself.

Basically, if you have text with linefeeds and a column of blank cells then Xara will paste a line into each cell until done.
So if fewer lines than cells, the text goes in from the top down.
If more, extra rows are created and new rows copy adjacent column values form the extra rows.
The copied text is treated as a single column of TSV data.

Told you I wasn't a fan.
I do, however, try to understand how a thing works and then try to develop from there; Xara never really explains.

@Xara - Regardless of how SmartTables works (or don't) the HTML Filter export really ought to form an HTML table with full ARIA compliance.

Acorn
07 July 2020, 07:34 PM
Egg Bramhill

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Re: How do you delete text from a table?

I replied earlier this afternoon but my reply appears to have gone AWOL.

As an alternative to Acorns suggestions you may consider creating a single column table. Clone it and move it right. Repeat for as many columns as you desire. Change all the Column Headings apart from one to a space " ".

At least this way you can edit the content of a column without deleting / changing a whole row.

In the attached screen grab I've intentionally left a gap between tables but of course you'd just butt them up to each other.

Xara tables were long time in delivery and still not spreadsheet-type friendly to edit.
19 July 2020, 04:06 PM
xKnuckles

Re: How do you delete text from a table?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill

I replied earlier this afternoon but my reply appears to have gone AWOL.

As an alternative to Acorns suggestions you may consider creating a single column table. Clone it and move it right. Repeat for as many columns as you desire. Change all the Column Headings apart from one to a space " ".

At least this way you can edit the content of a column without deleting / changing a whole row.

In the attached screen grab I've intentionally left a gap between tables but of course you'd just butt them up to each other.

Xara tables were long time in delivery and still not spreadsheet-type friendly to edit.

Thanks Egg. (I got sidetracked from this.....am able to try again now...) This sounds like a simple solution. i shall give it a go. :-)
19 July 2020, 04:07 PM
xKnuckles

Re: How do you delete text from a table?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acorn

xK, welcome to the Smart?Table Appreciation Society.

I am not a fan.

https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...ide-to-MS-Word
https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...t-Tables-v16-0
Still waiting, specifically, https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...632#post597632.

What you are asking for is a Swap with (Above, Below, Left, Right) function on a Cell to allow a nudge capability.

The best I can currently manipulate with Xara Smart Tables is Ctrl+Select all blank cells in a column touching the filled cell.
Merge then Select the merged cell and Unmerge and the filled cells' data has percolated up to the top.

here is a complex dance I can try and run you through.

For a Column

Shift+Select all the Rows
Merge [one cell with all text]
Unmerge [restored cells with top one with all text]
Select the merged Text with Ctrl+A & Ctrl+X [empty cell]
Select the top cell
Paste [data restored with blanks cells below]

Assumption: No linefeeds in cell data.

I leave the Row dance to yourself.

Basically, if you have text with linefeeds and a column of blank cells then Xara will paste a line into each cell until done.
So if fewer lines than cells, the text goes in from the top down.
If more, extra rows are created and new rows copy adjacent column values form the extra rows.
The copied text is treated as a single column of TSV data.

Told you I wasn't a fan.
I do, however, try to understand how a thing works and then try to develop from there; Xara never really explains.

@Xara - Regardless of how SmartTables works (or don't) the HTML Filter export really ought to form an HTML table with full ARIA compliance.

Acorn
Thank you Acorn. This sounds complicated... I will save it as a last resort after I try the one column solution....
19 July 2020, 04:17 PM
Acorn

Re: How do you delete text from a table?

Quote:

Originally Posted by xKnuckles

Thank you Acorn. This sounds complicated... I will save it as a last resort after I try the one column solution....

Yes it is complicated until you understand how Xara has designed its SmartShape.

Acorn