I was googling 'CMS' and 'Xara' and ran into this site: https://whatcms.org/c/Xara.
I leave it to others to interpret the numbers. ;-)
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I was googling 'CMS' and 'Xara' and ran into this site: https://whatcms.org/c/Xara.
I leave it to others to interpret the numbers. ;-)
That is really interesting and it surprised me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boy
You can see how well the Magix collaboration is working because half of the websites detected had german or austrian top level domains and the US .com and UK .uk put together scrape in at 20%, with the UK at 2.4%.
Those statistics alone reflect a different reality to what is perceived here - half of the Xara/Magix users worldwide are in Germany and Austria.
As well as that the market share has risen in the last six months, though the overal market penetration is tiny.
Love the colors in the pie charts.
Xara users are a colorful bunch! :-)
pauland:
"...the US .com ..."
Just so we're clear, the TLD .com is not exclusive to the US and should not be interpreted as such.
afaik no domain is exclusive - we have several .com but we are uk
.com is the prefered choice because it is the defacto default when web searching...
PS - oh and Xara.GmbH is based in Berlin.. could there be a connection...
Yes, you're absolutely right. Even so our German and Austrian friends are way in front.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanFelix
I am minded to take out a .de domain just for the hell of it....>:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by handrawn
Don't let us stop you.
Before any bright spark ( USA: Smartass ) also volunteers that you can buy a domain for any country from any other country, I already know.
I made my comment with regard to the balance of the distribution, which will generally reflect the balance of the location of the web designers, but not perfectly, as has been pointed out.
I wonder how many of the CMS add-ons are by XT-CMS. Perhaps when XTom passes through this thread, he can give us some idea....
My understanding of the CMS Versions, Major and Minor is the XARA HTML generator, c.f., <meta name="Generator" content="Xara HTML filter v.9.6.1.39"/> for v17.0
v10 has generator version 7.0 and Xara Xtreme 5.1 is version 2.2 (<meta name="Generator" content="Xara HTML filter v.2.2.0.675"/>).
CMS has nothing to do with actual content management systems butThis is the more telling as it shows how much Xara loses against each version it delivers.Quote:
A CMS will sometimes include a meta tag within the html of each page. This is usually a "generator" tag like <meta name="generator" content="What CMS" /> but could also be "application-name", "Powered-By" or anyting else the CMS creators decide to use.
Map generator version to product version and you can see the trend.
Acorn
Acorn said it all.
dont you just love the way irony provokes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pauland
what I want to know is.. so what? if that is the way the stats are, so what? should anyone in the know actually be surprised
Once again I'm totally confused. Not unusual. This site seems to search for sites using CMS software. The majority of Xara created sites never use CMS, perhaps apart from those created via xtom . So what use is this data?
Egg, read my last Post. CMS is a listing of what the developer puts in the META data as "generator. Xara's generator is the Xara HTML filter, which has it own version number different to the product version number. This site is simply recording what the published Xara sites were published with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill
Know the generator version, know the product version.
For example, your recent website is:
parkeston.com/tim-box-2/ uses
So you were using XDPXv17.0.
Category Software Version CMS Xara 9.6.0.33 Web Server Apache
Clearer?
Acorn
CMS systems tend to insert meta data into the hTML that identifies the site as having been generated through software rather than being a static, hand-coded site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill
The Xara software inserts some generator strings and the and CMS site thinks Xara sites were created from a CMS.
So, in short it finds Xara sites whether they have used a CMS or not.
Duplicate Posting after an Internet outage - IGNORE.
Acorn
Aha, "HTML that identifies the site as having been generated through software.....," that clarifies matters. Thanks for that, Pauland.
Err.. noQuote:
Originally Posted by handrawn
Too much cleverness for this poor soul.Quote:
what I want to know is.. so what? if that is the way the stats are, so what? should anyone in the know actually be surprised
Time for Summer Recess.
@ Acorn
As mud!Quote:
Clearer?
Where do you get the Category = cms from? I can't see it in my page source.
sorry if I appeared cleverer than I actiually am - not my intentionQuote:
Originally Posted by pauland
I see that the 'popular' sites quoted are mostly .COM, and none are .AT or .DE
I know prctically nothing about CMS, and have no wish to delve; statistical interpretation I have some experience in, but I will leave this all up to you that do know CMS...
Perhaps this make more sense: https://trends.builtwith.com/cms/Xara-Web-Designer and even https://trends.builtwith.com/cms/country/Germany (2% of "German" sites made with Xara!; those in UK - 0.6%.).
Acorn
It's strange how Frontpage has a good number, are these just very dated sites that have not been updated for ages? Or am I being a bit dim in these very strange times :)
Also, glad to see Website X5 isn't doing much better than Xara <grin>
Obviously Wordpress is the king here but I have tried Wordpress and it was a nightmare, constantly breaking sites and if you are not a coder, and I'm not, it was an impossible task to fix it without starting over. Not to mention all the plugins needing updates, which can also lead to breaking your site. It makes me laugh when there's a lot of talk of developing in Wordpress for free, or nearly free, but in reality, it aint!
I got a reply to a challenge I had with the spelling of colour as color in XaraXine 11.
Xara has chosen to adopt American English and that I should therefore use a spell-checker and set the document language, neither which Xara Cloud has as features.
Ah well, an effective, self-limiting market share mechanism at work. Is it not a wonder that Xara websites are created then languish?
acorn