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Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
I have Designer Pro X and recently, via Update Service (which I just about understand) upgraded to the November 2020 version. Grand.
An email has come in offering me lifetime 50% discount if I 'change over' to Xara Cloud Pro+.
This seems to be a combination of the desktop Designer Pro+ and Xara Cloud.
If I 'change over' from Xara Designer Pro X to Designer Pro+...
1. Do my projects open up perfectly in Pro+, or will something be missing?
2. Is there a cross-upgrade path (I understand that Pro+ is Xara's 'personal' version of Magix's 'tweaked' Xara Designer Pro X)?
Or do I have to buy this other version?
3. If I start using Pro+, can I just delete Pro X?
4. Do I lose my 'M' Hosting?
5. Is Xara Cloud Pro+ 'the same thing' as Designer Pro+? I mean does the 50% discount apply to both? (See attached screenshot of email offer).
Now for the 'Cloud' stuff. I've read as much as I can find and it still leaves me a bit muddled... Cloud Pro, Cloud+, Cloud, with Designer Pro+ mixed in there occasionally.
That's just the terms, haven't even got to the pricing yet.
Thanks for the 'Update Service' explanation elsewhere on the forum, by the way, which helps a lot to understand what's going on.
So, basically...
On 12th May 2020, I upgraded to Xara Designer Pro X for €104.88. That was Pro X11 to Pro X17 (called Pro X365 in my Magix account), in fact. A great deal!
The Update Service will last until May 2021.
1. What do I actually own that will last, if I do nothing?
2. As a upgrade path, what's the very best option? Sometimes I wait a couple of years to upgrade to a new version (like from Pro X11 to Pro X17).
3. Given the Lifetime 50% Discount, what will it actually cost me?
Sincerely appreciate input from the forum!
Seamus
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
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Originally Posted by
XByrne
I have Designer Pro X and recently, via Update Service (which I just about understand) upgraded to the November 2020 version. Grand.
An email has come in offering me lifetime 50% discount if I 'change over' to Xara Cloud Pro+.
This seems to be a combination of the desktop Designer Pro+ and Xara Cloud.
If I 'change over' from Xara Designer Pro X to Designer Pro+...
1. Do my projects open up perfectly in Pro+, or will something be missing?
2. Is there a cross-upgrade path (I understand that Pro+ is Xara's 'personal' version of Magix's 'tweaked' Xara Designer Pro X)?
Or do I have to buy this other version?
3. If I start using Pro+, can I just delete Pro X?
4. Do I lose my 'M' Hosting?
5. Is Xara Cloud Pro+ 'the same thing' as Designer Pro+? I mean does the 50% discount apply to both? (See attached screenshot of email offer).
Now for the 'Cloud' stuff. I've read as much as I can find and it still leaves me a bit muddled... Cloud Pro, Cloud+, Cloud, with Designer Pro+ mixed in there occasionally.
That's just the terms, haven't even got to the pricing yet.
Thanks for the 'Update Service' explanation elsewhere on the forum, by the way, which helps a lot to understand what's going on.
So, basically...
On 12th May 2020, I upgraded to Xara Designer Pro X for €104.88. That was Pro X11 to Pro X17 (called Pro X365 in my Magix account), in fact. A great deal!
The Update Service will last until May 2021.
1. What do I actually own that will last, if I do nothing?
2. As a upgrade path, what's the very best option? Sometimes I wait a couple of years to upgrade to a new version (like from Pro X11 to Pro X17).
3. Given the Lifetime 50% Discount, what will it actually cost me?
Sincerely appreciate input from the forum! Seamus
Seamus, everything you are asked is very valid.
I will try my best and answering.
The LIFETIME discount covers both Xara Cloud+ & Xara Pro+ [Xara ]failing again over product naming clarify.
This is a Subscription and the discount price is for both.
Cloud+ is effectively your application run on a server giving you web control over your designs [Limited in a number of areas so you cannot built a website directly]
Cloud+ allow participation.
Pro+ is the latest XDPX [without Magix interference]
It has some small omissions from XDPX [few will notice and if they so, not worry]
Pro+ will stop when you sub stops so keep XDPX loaded [If you remove it, you revert back to the bought version. A very BAD Magix penalty]
You will lose Service M [It it labelled as a xara service but it is run by Magix and it very poor value (no SSH)]
You can trade in your remaining Magix Update service [you need to discuss with Xara directly]
I would keep it running [you might be missing the eventual 4k fix otherwise]
The benefits. No Magix involvement. Cost equates to an annual Update Service. Fall-back is your installed XDPX. Faster updates. Better Help support. Xara needs Cloud+/Pro+ to survive so its focus ought to be keener.
Acorn
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
if you have the time [me having maybe just wasted a bit of yours, sorry] can you briefly outline what the pro+ omissions are ? thanks again
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
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handrawn
if you have the time [me having maybe just wasted a bit of yours, sorry] can you briefly outline what the pro+ omissions are ? thanks again
EXIF, Xara Slideshow Widget Hosted by Magix) and a few others here: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...098#post625098.
Acorn
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
thanks, I am a magpie for information !
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
as I don't use xara for websites full stop [period if you must] nor use the OCC up to now at least, most of that is not going to effect me I would have thought
PCFx LE's are useful; EXIF can be useful for me occasionally; - but these are still in ver15/16 that I have. and are mostly covered in other programs too - EXIF I am sure will come through idc, if the LE's don't it's no deal breaker
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
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Originally Posted by
Acorn
Seamus, everything you are asked is very valid.
The benefits. No Magix involvement. Cost equates to an annual Update Service. Fall-back is your installed XDPX. Faster updates. Better Help support.
Acorn
Thanks Acorn!
So, if I understand correctly...
1. If I do nothing, I keep my Pro X including relevant Service Updates perpetually after May 2020, provided I don't uninstall Pro X.
2. If, after May 2020, I upgrade to the next version of Pro X OR renew Service Updates (basically the same thing), it will cost me approx. €100.
3. If I switch over to Pro+ and Cloud Pro+, I have a new desktop version and the cloud services (I can work from my iPad in the cloud).
This will cost me approx. €100 per year, the same as upgrading or service updating the Magix version.
I can also keep my Magix Pro X as a fall back in case I don't renew Pro+ and Cloud Pro+.
4. If I don't renew Pro+ and Cloud Pro+, I can keep Pro+ on my desktop and just work with that.
Am I right about this 4th point?
But if I'm not going to renew every year, there's no point in switching over anyway. I may as well just stay with Designer Pro X.
Re. the future, will there be a conflict between Magix and Xara? Will one of them eventually stop supplying the program? Or are both committed?
Right now, if I want to maintain regular upgrades, the Pro+/Cloud Pro+ seems to be the best option for the same price.
I'm wondering, though, will there be Cloud Storage costs?
Seamus
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
So what is the price for an existing Designer Pro X user to move to the the Xara Pro+ Cloud? I saw the 50% lifetime discount but I am not sure what it is 50% off of.
thanks,
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
A reason for me to keep Pro X is the FX filters. Pro+ has none of the filters except Bitmap Shadow and Bitmap Blur. I think these filters were licensed from Magix. I use some of these frequently.
Re: Designer Pro X versus Designer Pro+ - should I switch over?
Thanks Gary,
I will certainly keep my Pro X. Just not sure about the value of the subscriptions anymore.