It appears to me that the average age of TalkGraphics users is getting older but without younger users being interested in the software and this is a great shame.
So I've created a poll to gauge the demographic of Xara users age.
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It appears to me that the average age of TalkGraphics users is getting older but without younger users being interested in the software and this is a great shame.
So I've created a poll to gauge the demographic of Xara users age.
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Would it not have been easier just to ask AGE?
Egg, I moved this to OTC.
Hi Keith, that can become very burdensome on TG's poll, to many options but without a simple poll lay out. Polls are a bit finicky to set up on TG and perhaps you where viewing my incomplete poll ;)
@ Gary
Still appears to me within the
Forum: TalkGraphics questions, suggestions and feedback forum.
okay Gary, now in the Off Topic forum;)
so what happened to <20 ? not that it applies to me except with my cartoonist hat on maybe :D
millennials may be far more interested in facebook/twitter and the like than 'old-style forums and they grow up 'spoliled for choice' program-wise
Radio 4 listener, but still young in heart.
Should I not get 6 votes for the different Xara Desktop products I use?
Is the TG calendar only visible to Moderators?
:D
Acorn
As a Xara user how old are you?
..exactly the same age that I am as an Adobe user, a Sketch user, an Apple user.. LOL
I think it's always been fairly clear that the TG demographic is long in the tooth. I suspect that the TG demographic is also heavily skewed by long-time users that remember when Xara was pretty exciting software. I remember my WOW moment discovering it at a design exhibition in Islington, London. Good old Xara Studio 1.0. Xara software lost that WOW factor many years ago, sadly. In fairness there isn't too much WOW software about any more - I've become used to seeing good software.
If the actual user demographic mirrors the TG demographic then the software is doomed.
Many young students who learn graphic design will not know Xara at all. Teaching at the university and in Germany is exclusively done with Adobe CC. All major agencies that also train typesetters use Adobe.
A few know Corel or now Affinity. The fact is, however, that only Adobe software is trained and a defacto industry standard.
How are young people supposed to know the benefits of Xara? Xara calls itself professional but does not participate in the professional DTP market. It fails on all sides to pick up young users.
Have to agree with Ernie above, any university/college and school will teach the adobe stuff and open software such as wordpress. This is then taken to the workplace where experience/knowledge of adobe software is preffered. Xara/magix/whatever is limited in their marketing - a while back I posted a thread about how xara had missed out on a massive opportunity to grab people forced to leave adobe muse and companies like webflow benefited because they bothered to market their product and were keeping in touch with what is going on.
It doesn't suprise me that the demographic is so high, but I did expect at least some in their 20s.
28 years but I'm not part of the category charts say I'm a beginner novice who delights in drawing and create logos and pixel art.
How would these people ever hear about Xara software and why should they find it appealing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloud
If they want vector software they have plenty of alternatives, including affinity.
If they want a photo editor they have plenty of alternatives, including affinity.
If they want a page layout program they have alternatives which will soon include Affinity.
If they want a web publisher there are plenty of alternatives, including Wordpress.
Until Magix became involved with Xara I had never heard of them and I never see them mentioned outside of these forums. I bought Xara back in the day when it was ahead of the game with very few competitors.
On the subject of Adobe, they are on the slide, but still currently the de-facto standard. Most people I follow or interact with online aren't using Photoshop or illustrator for web or app design. The new trend is towards design tools that support collaboration and are targeted towards web and app design, often with animation support and simulation of final designs as apps or web pages. Adobe's attempt at this market is XD.
Adobe has abandoned several software projects and I think they won't be the de-facto standard for web/app design in a few years. I'm not sure what will because there are several close competitors. I think the interoperabilty of Adobe software and the sector standardisation for Adobe's file formats has saved them.
TG isn't necessarily representative of the Magix/Xara userbase but I've thought for some time that the demographic is very old in comparison with other competitors. I don't see anything that would make that change.
Welcome!Quote:
Originally Posted by LucaWeb
What made you choose the software and how did it come to your attention?
Always I delight to draw vector graphics and turning on sites looking for rebates saw prices almost always inaccessible creative programmes such as if a person doesn't work it becomes difficult to pay for it every month.Quote:
Originally Posted by pauland
Having said that, unfortunately, at least for those who work and manages programs of this type there are many free alternatives already used almost ALL and none is as fast as Xara Designer Pro X MAGIX Photo & Graphic Designer.
What allows you to do this program is amazing and with other programs you take twice as long.
This is why I'm using it and so far I am very well, and the thing about not putting a fixed membership is a good thing, even if $199 are still a lot of money and hardly any one who begins to use programs of this kind can spend such a figure in lthough with humble bundle discounts this becomes possible.
I hope that the text is clear unfortunately to communicate using a translator.
It's good and I wish you much success with the software.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucaWeb
The poll shows that the users are of 'quite an age'.
Much can be read into that.
Not really. The poll means little as regards actual, real, statistics. It's a maybe, maybe not thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rik
It does show that the usual suspects around here are of certain age ranges. But I suspect that there are more than (presently) 27 licencees.
Indeed Mike. It only indicates the age profile of Xara users as members of TG and even then only reflects mainly persistent contributors not the occasional browser of TG.
According to this Forum there are 31,339 Members
so 27 (current) replies isn't a gnat bite of this figure. But then again 31,312 members are being very silent ;)
Egg, I'm going to "change my mind" about this "subject" in less than two months. Should I vote now anyway (giving my current "opinion")? :confused:
Looks to me like xara desktop products are "cash cows". The marking approach? Continue to milk as much revenue from existing customers as possible while keeping expense to a minimum. Based on this poll xara desktop products will just fade into non-existance as their customer base ages and dies off.
..and who is to say that MagiXara doesn't die off before some of the age bands do?Quote:
Originally Posted by onlye