Updated Xara - problem with navigation bar

Hi,

I have just updated to the latest version of Xara Designer Pro X 16.1.0.56164 DL x64 Feb 14 2019

The navigation bar I had (hamburger menu) had to have invisible text, otherwise I could not create the menu.
Now the bars has vanished and all I can see, when previewing, is the "invisible" text and that does not show the menu when clicked on.
But, the pointer shows that there is a link.

So, is this a bug or what?
My client wants a hamburger menu and I need to make it look nice.

The page is not published as I need to have it fixed before publishing.

/Olle in Sweden

Olle, you have possibly fallen foul of the new Web Properties > Image > Group images setting.

Xara chose to default to separate images; most application users are finding the default ought to been the reverse.

Acorn

Acorn - I have been having similar issues with a Mobile variant.

I finally said *&^%$#@!!! and made all the buttons actual bitmaps. A lot of work but what else can we do?

Gary, the problem I have is I have not been using the Xara NavBars or making my own Hamburger icon. Were i to now, i might tackle it differently to how you made yours.

All I can suggest is an upload of your offending (offended) Hamburger NavBar for me to have a dig.

Acorn

Acorn - I grouped the buttons which I added to a pop up layer. I selected the all objects one group option. The text changed to the linked color.

I can't upload the file because I took the time and redid the mobile variant with actual bitmaps for the buttons.

Thanks for the help! But there is no Web Properties > Image > Group images setting in my Xara.
Where do I find it? The image settings in my Xara is the same as before where I could choose to pop up the image etc. But no "grouping".

When I installed the update I got a link to a page where I was (supposed) to find release notes. Hmm... (http://releasenotes.xara.hosting/designer-pro/) linked me to a page with old (versin 15) update info. Not good!

/Olle

Web Properties > Image

Attachment 123577

That is grayed out on my PC.
But when I ungrouped the menu it was possible to group.
The strange thing is that the menu appears when I preview "mobile-view", but the links does not work.
In "PC-preview" the menu vanished.
Back to the drawing board...

I don't know what is wrong with this update.
Scrolling in preview mode is not working and trying to make those nav-bars (now not hamburger - just text and a box behind - does not work.
Is there a way to go back to the previous version?

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Originally Posted by olledahl

I don't know what is wrong with this update.
Scrolling in preview mode is not working and trying to make those nav-bars (now not hamburger - just text and a box behind - does not work.
Is there a way to go back to the previous version?

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Olle, sorry you are having these issues.

Do raise a Thread in Dear Xara, specifically asking for a link to v16.0.

Acorn

I was puzzled when I opened an existing site design to update some items and found wierd and not so wonderful things happening which all appear to be linked to this problem in one way or another. Now whilst I have managed to amend the new site offerings and switch to the "non default" setting individually I don't seem to be able (or can't find) how to set a default for the whole site. If I cannot it means I have to go through every item on the site which have links etc in them which now display as a graphic with a text underlined on them.

Is there a way to reset the default globally on an existing site??? Or am I missing the obvious here?

Help

Ken

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Originally Posted by mentorman

I was puzzled when I opened an existing site design to update some items and found wierd and not so wonderful things happening which all appear to be linked to this problem in one way or another. Now whilst I have managed to amend the new site offerings and switch to the "non default" setting individually I don't seem to be able (or can't find) how to set a default for the whole site. If I cannot it means I have to go through every item on the site which have links etc in them which now display as a graphic with a text underlined on them.
Is there a way to reset the default globally on an existing site??? Or am I missing the obvious here?
Help Ken

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Ken, this is a guess but if you unhide the MouseOver Layer, or all layers, then select all on the page, you can apply Web Properties > Image > Group images setting.
Page by page, Variant by variant, Site by site.

Acorn

Olle, post your navbar in a small.xar file. I have several mobile sites which I have upgraded to v16.1. Nothing short of challenging, but I have them working OK now.

I have documented what I do to get a Hamburger NavBar working in v16.1.

Attachment 123605

The novel steps are marked in red.

Hope this helps.

Repairing an existing, broken Navbar would involve Ungrouping to edit graphics and ungrouping the Text column and re-applying the steps I described; all sub-menus should remain intact.

Acorn

I have not reinstalled v 16.1 yet, but I will take a look at what you did Acorn.
Anyway, I have made a new site that can be previewed at www.feelit.se/js/
Feel free to take a look and give me comments. However, it is not finished in detail.

Have a nice weekend!

/Olle

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Originally Posted by olledahl

I have not reinstalled v 16.1 yet, but I will take a look at what you did Acorn.
Anyway, I have made a new site that can be previewed at www.feelit.se/js/
Feel free to take a look and give me comments. However, it is not finished in detail.
Have a nice weekend!
/Olle

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Thank you Olle.

I made a previous decision not to republish my sites with a new update and always keep another machine with the previous version, just in case.
Sadly, I am still running Xara Desktop applications at v16dot1, v16dot0, v15dot1 and v12dot8 to overcome a number of bugs that are still lolloping around or are being impeded by fresh bugs.
Every new publish is requiring extensive retesting of features that have been stable in prior releases.

I know of no other web application I have where this is so rife.

Acorn

I have had the same problem with Nav Bars since the new update, and it has really messed up my project.... With Nav Bars not working at all or web pages being scrambled with pictures not being in their proper place and not being able to scroll down the page. I even found a bug in the Nav Bar Properties panel when it opens.. Under Orientation & Justification, see picture attached First picture is when the panel opens up, all is ok..
Attachment 123610

In the next picture if i click on Centre button (radio button or whatever its called) under Justification the Horizontal under Orientation highlight disappears... Is this part of the Nav Bar bug as well or entirely a different thing.

Attachment 123611

With the change to Nav Bars i have decided to uninstall Web Designer Premium and try the 16.0 version that i still have on my computer and hope that it will work, with all the work i have done lately on my project i don`t fancy going through over 140 pages to change each and every Nav Bar... 16.0 you better work. :)

OK Update.. As of now i`m using the 16.0 version of Web Designer Premium and all my Nav Bars are working again, so i won`t be updating until the Nav Bars are fixed or put back the way they were in the 16.0 version. :)
Great program just a pity about all the bugs on updates or at least in this update anyway.

I have 16.1 and this is what works for me.
a. Make Text
b. Make Box
c. Group Both
d. Select Web Properties, Image, One Image
e. Link Group
f. Copy Group to Mouse Over
g. Edit Mouse Over
h. Soft Group Both Layers
i. Complete Bar with Nav Menu
j. Test

My conclusion was that it mattered when you select as one image. This checklist has helped me. Hope it helps others.

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Originally Posted by DanFelix

I have 16.1 and this is what works for me.
a. Make Text
b. Make Box
c. Group Both
d. Select Web Properties, Image, One Image
e. Link Group
f. Copy Group to Mouse Over
g. Edit Mouse Over
h. Soft Group Both Layers
i. Complete Bar with Nav Menu
j. Test

My conclusion was that it mattered when you select as one image. This checklist has helped me. Hope it helps others.

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Cheers. I`ll keep that in mind if i decide to upgrade to 16.1 again.

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Originally Posted by DanFelix

I have 16.1 and this is what works for me.
a. Make Text
b. Make Box
c. Group Both
d. Select Web Properties, Image, One Image
e. Link Group
f. Copy Group to Mouse Over
g. Edit Mouse Over
h. Soft Group Both Layers
i. Complete Bar with Nav Menu
j. Test

My conclusion was that it mattered when you select as one image. This checklist has helped me. Hope it helps others.

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Thanks Dan, similar to my approach in https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...640#post606640, where I included a step to ensure transparency with the PNG choice.

Acorn

We really need a fix from Xara on this. Hamburger menus are broken even it Xara's own templates in the Content Catalogue. Can you help, please, @Rob-Xar?

Apologies, as mentioned here, we are working on a hotfix which will be released very shortly that will revert the change for now whilst we investigate the issue and fix all the problems present.

I'll try and get the next big patch as early as possible to the beta testers to find these sort of issues as soon as possible.

Thanks
Rob

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Originally Posted by Rob-Xar

Apologies, as mentioned here, we are working on a hotfix which will be released very shortly that will revert the change for now whilst we investigate the issue and fix all the problems present.

I'll try and get the next big patch as early as possible to the beta testers to find these sort of issues as soon as possible.

Thanks
Rob

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Thanks mate - much appreciated! :-)

I don't know if I posted this before, but - when I made a nav bar in 16.1 the text in the menu was centered - not left adjusted.

Also I want to have Xara Designer Pro to not unused files when exporting to a web site.
I made a site with videos and then I removed the videos from the project. Saved it as a new file name and exported it to a web site. The video files was there as well, even if they were not in the project anymore.

Why can't I find the hamburger menu in the Online Content Catalog?

Still running 16.0 and it works fine.

/Olle in snowy Sweden

Rob has announced an upcoming fix for the navbars.

Your export query is related to the way Xara handles embedded videos. The video(s) is stored in a separate folder in the Xara Masters folder. It will have the same name as your project and Xara uploads all the files from said folder.
I believe the default path is 'Pictures/Xara Masters/name of project_xar_files' If you delete the unwanted videos from there, Xara can't upload them.

garycwood84:

I have been able to successfully make a single button nav (hamburger) manually and by altering nav bars from the Content library. Is the problem with sites from previous builds or with sites originally built in 16.1? I have not tried sites from previous builds. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by DanFelix

Is the problem with sites from previous builds or with sites originally built in 16.1? I have not tried sites from previous builds.

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Hi Dan,

The navbar I created with a previous build is broken in 16.1 -- be sure to shrink your browser window to see a variant with the hamburger menu, to see the problem.

The same navbar menus are broken in the Content Gallery templates, too.

Rob from Xara posted earlier that they are working on a hotfix and aiming to release it this week.

Cheers,
Gary