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Over the years I've had a few problems with P&LD and WDP - functions that don't exist in either or both, but do exist in Designer Pro X.
I know this is subjective, but would $99 be worth it? And is the dreaded update service the same - updates for 1 year and then no more.
I know I can download a keep a copy of the Designs Gallery.
Are there any other worthwhile advantages of Pro X I'm not aware of?
Thanks in advance.
LGF, for an annual Subscription of $101.70 (using the LIFETIME voucher), you get Xara Pro+ and Xara Cloud+.
No Magix. You don't get to keep Pro+ after the end of your Subscription so at that point if you do not re-subscribe, use your $99 to buy back into Magix.
Keep your current Xara applications installed; they can still be quite useful.
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Hi Acorn,
I (and my products) are still registered with Magix, and here is the upgrade offer I can get:?
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LGF, appreciate that but I think Xara Pro+ is better. It depends on what you need it for but I found Magix's lack of support and lock-outs beyond the pale.Quote:
Originally Posted by letsgofishing
I have written lot of Posts on this subject but you'll have to Search TG to locate them.
Acorn
True Acorn, thanks for your inputQuote:
Originally Posted by Acorn
If you can handle the magix nag screen then go for it. They even nag you after you upgraded to upgrade again LOL wtf. Does the + also nag the ass out of users?
Yeah - Keep getting it but I've got used to it - 1 more mouse click.Quote:
Originally Posted by behzad
And the Magix offer is a good one I reckon.
No, just the tedium of another upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by behzad
Acorn
Nagging is in their blood LOL
@behzad. I’m really surprised on your professional use you haven’t upgraded to Pro+ yet. No nags, more updates, more service.Quote:
Originally Posted by behzad
I’ve got 4 websites on this service now and I’m pretty happy. A yearly for me just works. And if you so desire there’s the branding package they offer. I haven’t played with that, but could come in handy.
-Bill
True, but yearly mandatory subscription fees, or else nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bwood
Let's say @behzad runs with Xara Pro+ for a year. At the end, he stops. He carries on using his bought XDPXv18.0. He could buy back into Magix at the near similar rate and almost get the same functionality but would probably have to buy again to match his last Pro+. He could alternate year-on-year at a cost of X yearly or even renew every second year (X/2 yearly).Quote:
Originally Posted by Boy
For a hobbyist, this is one bought coffee less every week/fortnight. For a professional, it is a business cost in the noise.
Like anything, stop when it hurts.
Acorn
@BWOOD Due to covid, more than 2/3 of my clients went away, so in future now that Rob is onboard, I may switch over, meanwhile I will stick with the Magix one for the one year.
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Originally Posted by behzad
That choice surprises me - Acorn's advice seems very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by behzad
The Magix updates seem slow and poor and the new features are emerging from Xara much more quickly, the version you'll get from Magix is very close to what you have now while the Xara version is at the forefront. If you don't resubscribe you won't have missed much as far as Magix goes and in a year you can decide to upgrade Magix (or not).
As far as I know the costs for one year are similar.
Maybe I have it wrong, but I think Acorn described the sweet spot for your circumstance. for the next year.
Behzad, you have clients and will get more. I do not charge excessively but a single client pays for my subscription, not in a charge but in my net income as I treat as a work tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by behzad
Acorn
When yearly upgrades (before the Magix update service and, later, the Xara subscription schemes) where still $ 89, I upgraded every year and was mostly quite happy. I just hope that Xara comes with a XDP+ version that we get to keep and doesn't cost as much.
[with the lifetime discount] hobbyist professional whomever it is less than 28p a day; you could put 28p in a jar every day for a year and provided temptation hadn't got the better of you first, you would be there; your decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Acorn
of course, you may have better use for that money
Another look at it. Say you work professionally for just an hour a day for 250 working days in a year. That hour's use cost you 40p. What is your hourly rate?Quote:
Originally Posted by handrawn
Increase it by 50p/h so you can have a free coffee every month.
Acorn
me being me I would put in a round 30p [besides all our 1p/2p/5p get grabbed by herself to go in the jar marked stamps]
of course there are those who swear cash is obsolete and will be gone within five years... sounds rather like they are on planet duck dodgers to me but there you go, maybe they hire gardners/ window cleaners / et al on a contract basis and pay them monthly... now that may well not work out cheaper...
It is good to know that I have friends here that look after me. But the reason I choose the Magix option was the other offers I got with the price. 1) Website M, Xara X Builder, Xara All Web Templates for $128 Canadian.
I just upgraded to the design pro x, because I wanted to add a web design program and I already had Xara page and design layout. Magix stated it was all xara programs in one package. Only thing is it reminds me of page and design layout program and not a web design tool. Am I missing something? I added the x builder templates that came with the upgrade. I don't see widgets and limited navigation bar options in the design gallery. The templates are flat, and only show one page, not the linking page. Any assistance would be nice. Also don't mention the xara cloud, that is a whole other feature, that I could have paid for without the program. I wanted to update and refresh and old website on our own hosting site and add a new e-commerce site.
edit: so I just went and downloaded the trial program xara web design premium, and now my design pro x asked me if I wanted to register it for .web... Why wasn't it already included if I was upgrading..
Kelticmaid, welcome to TalkGraphics. Xara Designer ProX is all of the above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelticmaid
I would suggest you look at the on-line assets explaining how to create websites.
Open The Local Designs gallery and right-click on the Blue folders and pick Download All. This will make over 3GB of templates locally accessible.
An alternative is to access the On-line Content Catalogue (Insert > From Content Catalogue or Selector Tool followed by Shift+Alt+I).
Flat templates? XBuilder components are designed for Xara Web Designer Premium but work extremely well in your XDPX. These are not templates but things you drop onto a design to build up a design; the clue is in its name.
These can be used with all the Xara Templated would have now accessed as described above. You could also download some of the free templates from XaraTemplates.com , the creator of XBuilder or even buy some.
What "linking page"? On the page, right-click & pick Multiple Page View.
Xara Cloud is free. If you had bought into Xara Cloud+, you would have got Xara Design Pro+ for free as part of the subscription package.
To add ecommerce to a Xara design, you will have to use a third-party Widget, available in the Local Designs gallery.
Acorn
Thanks, Acorn for the assistance. Probably why I'm afraid of going on Xara Cloud is because I was a beta tester for it and didn't realize that I was one when I first got my Design and Page layout program. I designed full Newsletters on it and asked lots of questions, loved the assistance I got from the team, however, when it went live I had to download all my work back to the desktop and found it wasn't quite compatible. Had several errors and to this day it is painful updating each newsletter. With the upgrade to Design pro x, the error messages have gone, thank be.. It was a graphics java code error that would sometimes crash the program. It did not like recurring graphics that I used on Xara cloud. I know I have one year free on XARA Cloud with my recent purchase, however, I don't want to lose my progress after a year, if it wants me to purchase a subscription to use the other functions I've come to depend on. I wish there were more tutorials on Design pro x.
Also what I had mentioned above, in the local design gallery the web folders were missing on my original download and registration, till I downloaded the free trial version of the web design, then the design x asked to register and download it.
Cheers for the reply. The quoted part still does not make sense unless the registration process got screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelticmaid
Perhaps it's you! ;)
Acorn