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I haven't figure out yet how to avoid these, images can have the same size and be centered or outlined to the border, usually you only get these ugly lines after exporting the image, or in the editor only with certain zoom levels.
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Before exporting is it neccesary to group elements? (does not make a difference however) How do professionals avoid these lines?
Are you using whole-pixel dimensions when you create the image? Another thing that might help is to place the graphics on top of a white background when you create the .png/.jpeg.
What are whole-pixel dimensions?
Select the object with the Selector Tool and check if the values W (Width of Selection) and H (Height of Selection) in the toolbar are whole pixels (no decimals). Images on screens are shown in whole pixels, which means that decimals are rounded to whole numbers and, therefore, such images may contain some 'noise' (anti-aliasing artifacts) around the edges.
And also, before you export your bitmap, make sure the position of the page setting is in even pixel amounts.
Also, please post in the appropriate forum. I have moved this to Web Design Chat.
Gary, never found that makes one iota of difference. Only the width/height size matters.Quote:
And also, before you export your bitmap, make sure the position of the page setting is in even pixel amounts.
Oh, OK you're right. :OQuote:
Gary, never found that makes one iota of difference. Only the width/height size matters.
Try this: Just open a 1024x576 bmp file with Designer, now apply the Soften Filter > Soft Focus effect with a horizontal radius of 1 and vertical radius of 0 pixels. You'll notice that the dimensions of the bitmap have not changed in the Selector tool's status bar and there is no border visible, but the origin has changed to X=2 and Y=1 pixels (which doesn't add up). Now Export it as a bmp with a new name or just save the original. If you re-open it in Designer it has no border, but if you open it in say, Paintshop Pro it does show the new border and it's dimensions are now shown truly as 1026 x 578! Designer is supposed to be WYSIWYG, but clearly is not in this case.
I have never had any other bitmap editor that changes the dimensions of the file or added an ugly border, no matter what filtering has been done. This is highly undesirable behaviour and I think its high time it was fixed. Just fyi... I chose 1024x576 as the dimensions of a 16x9 video frame (which I work with a fair bit) and .bmp as the format because it is uncompressed, thus cleaner. I chose the soften filter with the particular settings because it very nicely gets rid of jaggies. Unfortunately, the border makes the file unusable and I don't have time to fiddle, I just need something that works. I also have to say that the Soften Filter and a lot of the other so-called 'live' effects are incredibly s-l-o-w. I don't see the point in paying fancy amounts for sub-standard performance and unusable results. In Designer I should be able to open a bitmap, clean it up a bit, add an artistic title and save it out to be imported back into the video edit software in a matter of seconds with no unwanted artifacts.
Jaydear, this seems a perfect post for Dear Xara.
Your issue is the use of the FX soften / soft focus Jaydear which is not the o.p's problem.
I agree that creating a soft focus image does create border issues but these can be avoided by cloning the image then apply the effect. Select the original untouched image below it and export as true colour png or true colour bmp. This eliminates the border problems. There's no quality difference between png & bmp, just that png creates smaller file sizes.
Never mind, wish I could have a delete post feature.
Yes, many thanks, that works! Bizarre, bizarre, bizarre, but it works :D. By bizarre I mean: I'm editing a copy, but the original is magically changing and that's what I export because the copy will export an unwanted border that doesn't show in the editing screen, but which is the only effect not appearing on the original! I'll call that 'editing by proxy'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill
I find with the Xara Designer Pro s/w that there are many unusual things which are completely different to s/w such as CorelDRAW, PaintshopPro, AutoCAD, et al. I'm a logical thinker (I think :rolleyes:) and have no major troubles using all manner of creative software but I can't seem to get a feel for the logic behind some of the tricky techniques to employ in XDP. I can't help feeling that I'm not alone.
Just PM me and let me know which post you want to delete. Right click on the post # and Copy Link Location.Quote:
Never mind, wish I could have a delete post feature.
I agree Jay. That particular FX extends the width of the original image by what appears to be several copies with variable transparencies applied (I could be totally wrong though). I originally tried exporting it with a transparent rectangle behind it and whilst it exported at the correct size it still had transparencies applied to the left/right edges. That's how I came up with the cloned copy behind it.
To see how odd this FX can act try using a 50px horizontal setting.
It's another one of these 'work-rounds' which we shouldn't need to use ;)
Thank you Gary.
Just got 'round to trying that... what a disgrace! Shame on you Xara :( Note to Xara: How about fixing these filters for use in the 21st century? I'd like a fully working program for my upgrade money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill
Not sure if this will work for you, but I've had this problem and my fix was to open the Page Options dialog (Right-click on a bit of empty page and select it from the context menu). Then in the Grid and Ruler tab make the Major spacing 50px and the Number of subdivisions 50px. Now go into the View tab and check the Never smooth tick box in the Bitmaps section. Don't forget to hit apply to save changes.
I think you meant 50px/50 subdivisions. Those settings and never smooth didn't affect the border issues caused by the soften filter for me though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronto
Yes sorry - 50px/50. I was exporting pngs, and often used to get the border artifact thing, I found that this fixed the problem. I can't comment on the soften filter issue though.