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Xara Designer Pro+ Update 20.3.0.59963
Date: 9th September 2020
Version Number: 20.3.0.59963
Article here: https://help-cloud-plus.xara.com/art...on-20-3-update
Release notes here: Release notes: http://releasenotes.xara.hosting/designer-pro-plus/
What's new
Selection UI
New SmartShape Handles
The handles on SmartShapes (tables, charts, shapes, text panels, etc.) have been improved, made more consistent and now match the handles used in Xara Cloud.
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New Selector Tool Handles
The selection handles shown when in the Selector tool have also been updated. These are shown on all types of object that don’t have their own smart handles, and on all multi-selections as in the example below.
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Footer Designs
These are new components that automatically size and postion themselves at the bottom of the page on insertion. They are also made repeating on insertion, so that they appear on every page of your design.
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Each footer typically has a logo, page number and a line of text.
These are new components that automatically size and postion themselves at the bottom of the page on insertion. They are also made repeating on insertion, so that they appear on every page of your design.
Each footer typically has a logo, page number and a line of text.
Other Improvements
Image Import Resolution
In earlier versions of Designer large images imported into web documents were always automatically reduced in size to Full HD resolution. Designer now prompts about this so the user can choose to import either the original image or a reduced image, as when importing into print documents.
Google Fonts Update
40 new fonts added:
Alata, Alatsi, Baskervville, Bebas Neue, Bellota, Bellota Text, Caladea, Calistoga, Comic Neue, Courier Prime, DM Mono, Epilogue, Gelasio, Girassol, Gotu, Grenze Gotisch, Gupter, Ibarra Real Nova, Inria Sans, Inria Serif, Inter, Jomolhari, Jost, Kulim Park, Manrope, MuseoModerno, Odibee Sans, Oxanium, Public Sans, Recursive, Red Rose, Rowdies, Sen, Solway, Sora, Spartan, Sulphur Point, Tomorrow, Varta, Viaoda Libre
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Re: Xara Designer Pro+ Update 20.3.0.59963
Thank you Rob.
For the Selectors, there is no real indication that the middle controls also handle Skew.
It appears when you move outwards, the exact opposite of the older controls.
The Footers add little that could not be done already.
There is no clue how to replace the Logo blob with an image.
equally, having all of three components in the footer is trivial; again, no explanation on how to augment one with other Objects.
I imagine any real-world changes will be obliterated when an alternative Footer is used.
A simple explanation on how the Footer can be amended to present as in the Release Notes would be nice.
The image import is most welcome.
The version detail provides is actually Xara Designer Pro+ 20.3.0.59963 SL x64 Sep 3 2020. This will be the build date as opposed to the release date.
Acorn
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What have you done with the selection of objects ?! Return it as it was! It became very uncomfortable ((((
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Aciden
What have you done with the selection of objects ?! Return it as it was! It became very uncomfortable ((((
Hi Aciden,
I am sorry to hear you don't like them. What exactly makes them so bad in your opinion?
The good news is, you can always go back to the old handle controls by a registry setting.
In case you need help with that, let me know!
Looking forward o your answer :)
Best, Eva
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Eva-K
Hi Aciden,
I am sorry to hear you don't like them. What exactly makes them so bad in your opinion?
The good news is, you can always go back to the old handle controls by a registry setting.
In case you need help with that, let me know!
Looking forward o your answer :)
Best, Eva
Often inconvenient without the usual selection of objects. For example, I regularly work in wireframe mode to accurately fit objects. But try to stretch the block, when there are no selection points, you have to constantly increase the object.
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Eva-K
Hi Aciden,
I am sorry to hear you don't like them. What exactly makes them so bad in your opinion?
The good news is, you can always go back to the old handle controls by a registry setting.
In case you need help with that, let me know!
Looking forward o your answer :)
Best, Eva
Eva, can you advise the Registry settings.
Acorn
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Acorn
Eva, can you advise the Registry settings.
Acorn
This is a software crutch. Better to do it conveniently or return everything back.
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For the Selectors, there is no real indication that the middle controls also handle Skew.
I'm just coming to the party but the mouse over or off still shows the double arrows. Or am I missing something?
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The new selector overlaps the "Object edit handles" (toggle on the selector toolbar).
Although I can see the "Object edit handles", I couldn't use/manipulate them anymore.
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Acorn
Eva, can you advise the Registry settings.
Acorn
Hi Acorn and everyone else who is interested,
here a short introduction how to use the old handle controls by a change in the registry:
Open registry editor and go to:
Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Xara\XtremePro Sub x64\17\Options\Selector Tool\ShowXCBoundsBlobs.
There, change the value from 1 to 0 to turn off the new handles.
@Aciden and everyone who does not like the handle controls so far: as mentioned in previous and other threads, this is just a starting point. We will no stop working on it until all ux and handling problems are solved. Actually it would be great to have you as a participant for beta testing of the new handle controls initiative to understand your workflow and use cases better and more in advance. Are you interested? In the meantime, stay tuned and happy creating :)
Looking forward to your response!
Best,
Eva
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FWIW
I did not like the new handles at first. But I have been working in the desktop version on my stereogram projects and I am starting to like them a lot. So maybe don't give up on them just yet.
I like the selection with Contours that automatically selected the top part of the contour.
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gwpriester
FWIW
I did not like the new handles at first. But I have been working in the desktop version on my stereogram projects and I am starting to like them a lot. So maybe don't give up on them just yet.
I like the selection with Contours that automatically selected the top part of the contour.
THANK YOU so much!! :)
I am so happy to read this! We will make them perfect, I promise!
Best,
Eva
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Thanks Eva-K. I just found it out myself this morning. And when i wanted to share this knowledge I saw you shared this tip already.
For those who like to experiment and like to tinker with your system: open regeditor and delve in the user key of Xara. But be aware: make an export before you change settings.
There are numerous tweaks and fixes which can't be done without getting your hands dirty. But this kind of tweaking is not for the fainthearted and some settings are totally unexplained or documented.
Would be a marvelous topic on this forum, though.
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Michael - Over ten years ago Bill Taylor aka Soquili, Steve Ledger and John Horn created a simple utility for tweaking some of Xara's registry settings called XaReg. The last version is 2.5
You can find download links if you do a search for it here. Even though it has not been developed for many years, it still works with even the new versions. Close your version of Xara before you changes the settings.
I'll attach a copy. It's free.
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I tried the link and was told that I don't have permission to access the page.
If others have the same problem, try the second link in the signature of the second post here: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...g-2-5-Released!
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Boy - I attached a copy to my previous post.
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Now it looks like I overlooked your post....
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Thanks Gary. Of course I know of Xareg. And I personally still prefer Bill Taylors version 1.4.4.0 which is capable of saving ones settings for the layout for toolbars and the settings for the program self.
Yes, sometimes one can get error messages depending on the Visual C libraries installed on the system. But still, it's very usable, so I enclosed the 1.4.4.0 as well
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But, given the development of the program and the addition of new registry keys it still very useful to delve into this digital cave MS has bestowed upon us. With all warnings and recommendations in all.
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Bill Taylor died about 10 years ago and at that point development stopped.
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These selection handles temporarily go away when you resize or rotate an object, which is a good thing. That should probably also happen with the feather slider (and profile sliders) while using the selector tool.
The bigger blue handles make it more difficult to see how the feathered object blends with the rest of the design while you are working with the feather sliders.
If you switch to the transparency tool, the object stays selected but the selection handles seem to go away. But now if you use the feather sliders its easier to see what is actually going on.
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Eva-K
THANK YOU so much!! :)
I am so happy to read this! We will make them perfect, I promise!
Best,
Eva
Eva, create a rectangle, clone it and rotate 90o.
Now Soft-Group them and set on the Object Edit Handles.
I find it almost impossible to locate the Edit Handles amidst the noise of the new section controls.
Few may not realise that even in a soft-grouped collection, individual objects can be manipulated with these Edit Handles.
Now, it is next to impossible.
Acorn
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Can you please make this dotted line thinner
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behzad
Can you please make this dotted line thinner
behzad, you are confusing me.
You swore off a SUBSCRIPTION model and here you are asking for a change in the very product.
Are you confusing this Thread with XDPX changes?
Acorn
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It is related to the subject matter so I put my suggestion here. What wrong is there in doing this? The update I got is made by Xara not magix. So what is it that I am doing wrong?
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behzad
It is related to the subject matter so I put my suggestion here. What wrong is there in doing this? The update I got is made by Xara not magix. So what is it that I am doing wrong?
You stated that you would not touch a subscription; XPro+ is a subscription. You wanted 4k for XDPX now so I assumed you were on the Magix Update Service.
There is nothing wrong with your suggestion if it is for XPro+. What is your version number?
Acorn
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So your saying because I have the Xara pro and my yearly sub has not expired and I got the auto update, I have no right mentioning anything?
I am confused? I have been around here for decades and you talk as if I am a new user? I really feel you distancing me because I am not on the cloud.
Wow did not expect that from you Acorn.
And why I can not suggest anything if I am not on the + side?????
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behzad
So your saying because I have the Xara pro and my yearly sub has not expired and I got the auto update, I have no right mentioning anything?
I am confused? I have been around here for decades and you talk as if I am a new user? I really feel you distancing me because I am not on the cloud.
Wow did not expect that from you Acorn.
And why I can not suggest anything if I am not on the + side?????
behzad, all and I do mean ALL that I was pointing out was you have Posted something about a product you do not have or want into a Thread on Xara Designer Pro+v20.3.
Your automatic update and patch are for XDPXv17.1 and might have some relationship to XPro+v20.5, which we happen to be on at the moment.
You can form and air your suppositions as you like but I try and support anybody with any product; Cloud, Update Service, out of Update Service
The only sides are Magix, Xara and us. Guess whose side I am on?
Acorn
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Would it be possible to shown the handles but not the heavy rectangular bounding box? I really prefer the simplicity of the previous handles but some of the functions of the new handles are helpful. For example, stretching with the Selector Tool and cropping with the Photo Tool?
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@acorn. Please point me to the section of the forum that I can post my concerns for my version of xara.
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behzad
@acorn. Please point me to the section of the forum that I can post my concerns for my version of xara.
behzad
Try the Dear Xara Forum.
Acorn
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Ok, should all and everyone who uses v17 be posting there for anything related to Xara? What if I want help from people like you? Do I still post in Dear Xara?
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behzad
Ok, should all and everyone who uses v17 be posting there for anything related to Xara? What if I want help from people like you? Do I still post in Dear Xara?
behzad, that is about the only Forum Xara staff ever bother with (Rob-Xar and MB365 excepted).
I patrol all Forums (actually, I use Quick Links > Today's Posts and Unanswered Posts) and start from there.
I usually try to sit out for 100 Reads to let others engage ('cos I can nick their ideas) before I throw in my opinion.
For any Magix-served XDA (Magix Update service) i would definitely raise issues, concerns and bugs in the Dear Xara... Forum - https://www.talkgraphics.com/forumdi...p?56-Dear-Xara.
For Xara Cloud and Xara Pro+, I would use https://www.talkgraphics.com/forumdi...line-Designer), I Post there with Dear Xara Cloud... as my preamble.
That way I can nail down what I have complained about and if xara has responded.
In the Bad Old Days when I was a Moderator or in the Days when I was a Bad Old Moderator (you choose), I had visibility of who had actually read the Thread.
You could refresh https://www.talkgraphics.com/online.php every minute if you were bored.
You can always PM your mentors.
I would also suggest Discord: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...Discord-Server.
Acorn
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Greatly appreciate it. :D
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It is fine to improve the appearance of the interface, it is fine to modernize the user interface, but it is a big mistake to change the functionality of the selectors / handlers, it is something that the user already has internalized and that is part of their workflow, if this is the future of Xara Designer Pro, it's time to look for other alternatives. Add functionality but don't break down what already works well.
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Add functionality but don't break down what already works well.
Welcome to TalkGraphics ezenwa
We totally agree.
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gwpriester
Welcome to TalkGraphics ezenwa
We totally agree.
I forgot to mention that even the shortcuts and the way they are used with the handlers changed. It's very uncomfortable in this new way. I'm sad :(
Greetings my friend, I stay tuned.
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When you click New document there are only 3 options now? Options for New A4 document etc. have gone?
https://i.imgur.com/g0Kd7wL.png
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I'm up to date with pro + as of the update released today - I don't see this - have you checked the templates/ENG folder in program files / xara program folder on your system disc to see if any are missing?
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Already a good approach to integrate a color management in Xara.
But as always with innovations in Xara, it’s just an immature thing.
Why can’t you set the color management, I’ll call it that even if it’s not, globally for the whole program?
For example, if I set ECI 300 and open the program again, Xara uses the first profile (US Web Coated (SWOP) v2 insted.
But I do not want to use that because it is wrong for the European Printers.
Is it possible to change this in the registry and if so where?
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handrawn
I'm up to date with pro + as of the update released today - I don't see this - have you checked the templates/ENG folder in program files / xara program folder on your system disc to see if any are missing?
Problem seems to be because I saved a new default template. On fresh install the templates are all there but when I save my new default template it says it can't save in the existing folder (due to admin rights?) and instead suggests my user/documents folder. So I do as it says and save it to my documents folder and now when I click new document they are all gone. I tried copying them all into user/documents folder but they still don't show? Never had this problem before.
Edit: actually it was my user folder and not my documents where it saved the template. When I move all the other templates to the same location as where the default template is saved they all show up again.