HOW ?

I had a tutorial that was in an old COREL Magazine Feb. 1995
The title of the tutorial is Borwing Shades ( How to isolate shaodws and highlights to use as special effects) by J.Scott Hamlin

And at that time i could not get the same result as shown in his tutorails, so i bookmarked it for later use.
Yesterday while cleaning my old files i saw this mag, and looked at the bookmarks in it, i found it, Then i decided to do the same but this time in PP10 instead of PP7

I had the same result not satisfying and not matching the final results, not even near

Problem faced :
1- when coverted the image to Gray mode the Histogram Equalization filter was not accessible, i had to convert back to RGB
2-When applied the same parameters in Equalization filter the result not the same ( 136 LOW, 197 Mid

3- i did not understand when he said " Using this image as transparency mask"

Down is the tutorial and the images, i highlited the text that i did not understand.

Recreating this tutorial would be apperciated

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Examples

I hope this is not on purpose [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] trying to ignore me, maybe you think that i have been asking a lot of questions



Anyway, i hope you can come up with answers, soon
I wanted to get the seam effects using the metioned techniques


take care

What step is the one you can't accomplish?

Regards

Yes , as shown above, the main problem that i could not get the right seperations, Highlihgts and shadows, as shown in Post 2 fig 4 & 5
using Histogram Equalization filter.

i did not understand what he meant by "using this image as a tarnsparecy mask"

Micheal i highlited the text in yellow for the steps that confused me in Post 6 & te

The idea is to take the highlights and shaows from an image to use in another image, i undersatnd the concept but not the steps.

The bottom line is i want to use the water drops in a new image to produce the wet look .

You can use an image as a mask, by loading it.
Mask/Load.

I didn't follow the steps, since the picture there are not good enough to obtain same results, but I think that loading the grayscale image, you can use it as a mask.

Regards

i will list to you the steps again

First he converted the image to gray scale
second, he used the following steps to isolate shadows and highlights:

Figure 4.
The Equalize filter was used to isolate the highlights
Figure 5.
To isolate the shadows, Equalize was used again but with different settings
Figure 6.
The Invert filter was applied to the shadows file prior to making it a transparency mask


As you see micheal i had a problem producing the Figures shown

I hope this time you will understand me:)

Thanks, to load image as mask hints, Really i new it but i wanted to make sure this is what he meant. thanks again

By the way i insatlled PS 7 to try, and i will inform any one who is interested.
About teh new features. But for now i will mention those
1- Image browser ------- old feature for PP (scrabbook)
2- Brush control -------- old feature for PP even PP is still has more option and better control than the one found in PS 7

More to follow ( i am not trying to take a credit from the new PS 7 features, of course there is a new nice feature found in the new PS7, but i hate when a new feature found in PS 7, everyone is talking about as it is a big deal and it only found on the all mighty PS 7 , a lot feature that artist is talking about where it is found in PP in LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOng time ago)

AJ,

The article you use is very old. It looks like it's using PP6 from here [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

One of the problems I have with it is it assumes that you have a near-perfect picture of raindrops, nice and big, with a neutral background to boot! We don't always have that luxury, to be sure.

Therefore, here's a method that will allow you to create your own water spots on any image. I'm adding a few dialog screenshots as well so be on the lookout for them below.

1. Open an image.

2. Press Ctrl K for Paint On Mask.

3. Effects | Noise > Add Noise (see 'Add Noise' screenshot, below). Press Ctrl F 5x to make the noise more dense.

4. Effects | Blur > Gaussian Blur @ 5.0 (Don't worry that the edge will look bad; we'll remedy that shortly).

5. Image | Transform > Threshold. Look at the 'Threshold' screenshot, below. Because noise is random every time, it is here that I want to note that your Threshold position will vary slightly (once you've gone through this exercise a few times, you'll be more comfortable making the more correct judgment). The thing to note is this : the Threshold slider is approximately in the middle of the tall spike, and that's where you want to be. So, if '192' isn't giving you the appearance of a well-defined black-white transition, and the white part isn't looking like random water spots, continue to move the Threshold accordingly (probably to the right).

6. Effects | Blur > Gaussian Blur @ 3.0.

7. Image | Adjust > Contrast Enhancement, Input Value Clipping = 118/122 (see the screenshot, below).

8. Ctrl K to remove the POM.

9. Ctrl UpArr to copy an object from the background.

10. Shift-click and drag one of the corner handles to stretch the spot outward. This is to give the appearance of magnification. About 1/8 inch should suffice on an 800x600 image (depending on the level of detail).

11. Ctrl M to create a mask from the object; Ctrl H to hide it.

12. Effects | 3D Effects > The Boss. Look at the setting from the Boss screenshot, below.

13. Unhide and remove the mask.

And that's about it.

Good luck,

Cliff

Add noise :

Threshold settings :

'The Boss' settings :

Thanks cliff for this lovely method
I love it and it is very usefull [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

But, sorry, i always use but, because what you did is generating the whole thing, Very smart [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

what i palced this tutorial which it was done in PP7, Because if i found any picture that i like i can use it to apply a nice touch in another pic

This is way my purpose not just the water drops, but may be i will find a nice wave that i want to add it to another picture,

I think the main tutorial explained in english like this:
1-Find a picture that you like
2-Coverted to Grayscale
3-Use the Histogram Equalize filter to extract and isolate Shadows and Highlights each of them the Shadow and Highlaghts will be save as cpt files and they will be loaded back to the new image as a mask, and play with brightness and contrast

Now 3 to isolate highlights and shadows where i got the troubles, thanks to Micheal he expalined to me how to load image as a mask,

Cliff you will notce that i place an axample at the end, wher to images, flowers & snads where used at the same procedures to produce the mixed image

Thanks again for your support

AJ,

If you do me a favor and scan the magazine image of the water drops and post it here (make it as large as TalkGraphics will allow), I'll be back with some info for you.

Just the water drops (the image in figure 1); I won't need the text.

Cliff

I did it in a hurry, PLZ don't get mad because of the size [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]


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step3

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step5

Fig. 1-8 are already posted at the top of this post

STEP3 Should be STEP 4 , i posted before step 3, sorry

Note: CLIFF how he mixed the leave pic shadows and highligts to the house pic, not neccessarly water drops

I hope you will see the whole tutorial and what exactly a im following,
All steps are clear, hope so

Take care you guys [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

AJ,

What I'm after is just the opposite! Sorry.

All I need is a scan of actual raindrop image that is figure 1 of the article you originally posted.

Thanks,

Cliff

Sorry Cliff, really i am in a holiday from Wensday - saturday night, i will be back at sunday, i check this post from Internet Cafe, not home
again thanks for your reply

Cliff you don't have to stick with the rain drops pic use any from the internet, AND as you se the picture from the tutorial is not good and it is grayscale, he did not post the colored one, he started that he converted this color water drop to grayscale and only posted the it,

You can use a leaves or flowers picture as he did and the pics are posted to you

Thanks
Waiting....................