Where did that toolbar go

I am using Video Deluxe Plus version 20.0.1.73. Have been using Video Deluxe for more than 2 decades, but don't use it often enough to have 1) mastered all the features or 2) remember where everything is. I upgraded a few months ago, and have not really needed to do any video editing since the upgrade. My current problem is 3-fold.
First I spent 10 minutes looking for a Xara Video Deluxe forum and could not find it. I am pretty sure I have posted there before, but it is unfindable. Thanks Magix.
Second, I need to zoom a section of video in to the upper 3rd or so of the screen. I know how to do this... I thought. However, nothing I try works the way it used to. I am translating menu's from the Dutch. So I chose "to cut-out", size the box inside the viewer, press "over 2 seconds", but it zooms over the entire length of the video fragment". Nothin I try makes it zoom over a 2 second period. Clicking on User defined does nothing, where I'd think that would bring up some kind of box with settings that the User can define.
Thirdly. When I used to make a video fragment zoom, a bar used to appear above the tracks with "dots" on a sort-of time line. This allowed me to move the end (or beginning) of the zoom (or whatever) from the end (or beginning) of the video fragment to within however many seconds or minutes I wanted to actually see the zoomeffect until it stabilezed at whatever "image size" I wanted. This bar is gone (presumable since the upgrade). I don't know what this bar is called, it was simply always there when I needed to adjust my zoom, and now I can't find it in a menu to turn it on. Of course, I checked every menu and read every menu item, tried a few, but nothing brings that bar back. So now what? I admit that I did not check out Help, since I assumed that it would be unhelpful (as usual) and would only explain to me how to use zoom, how to use said bar, but not how to turn it on. I could be wrong, but that is my experience. I decided to use the time I'd waste on reading an unhelpful Help file, by going to the Video Deluxe Forum (which I then couldn't find).

I ended up cutting the video track at 20 seconds, and applied the Zoom over the full length option to that 20 second fragment. That worked, but then I had to resize the following fragment to the exact same dimensions and location where the zoomed fragment left it. I have no idea how to find out exactly what numbers I need to fill in to accomplish a perfect match, so I got as close as I could (in a reasonable amount of time) and just accepted the imperfection at the "joint". This CAN'T be the way this is supposed to be done, but my handy little bar has disappeared with no indication how to get it back.

David Boyd

David, Video Deluxe Plus is a Magix product.

Did you get it as a filler when you updated a Xara product?
Xara would therefore never have any related Forum.
Steam has a 2020 forum: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1126560/discussions/.

It is nothing to do with Xara but I am sure some TGer will have an idea.

Acorn

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Originally Posted by Acorn

David, Video Deluxe Plus is a Magix product.

Did you get it as a filler when you updated a Xara product?
Xara would therefore never have any related Forum.
Steam has a 2020 forum: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1126560/discussions/.

It is nothing to do with Xara but I am sure some TGer will have an idea.

Acorn

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I purchased Magix Video Deluxe decades ago shortly after I purchased Magix P&GD. I have updated them both, usually as new versions became available.
I am not sure what you mean by "did you get it as a filler when you updated a Xara product?" But probably not. It is one of the program's in Magix line of products. The program clearly states in the upper left corner of the Title Bar: "Magix". As said, I searched with Google and on the Magix home page for a Video Deluxe Forum, but could not find it.

I will try posting my question on Steam. Thanks for giving me the link.

David

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I am not sure what you mean by "did you get it as a filler when you updated a Xara product?"

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When updating a Xara graphics product, Magix has the habit of including one or more of its own "unwanted" products to increase the cost to the purchaser so that they are conned into paying for future upgrades. All fine if the products offered are of use to the purchaser (usually not though). Magix offered MVD 2019 in such an offer, hence my application of the word 'filler'. The only product so bundled that was of any widespread graphic use has been XBuilder. Sadly all I got was ASEOPS 11 that I have used all of once!

Acorn

Well now. That's unfortunate. Steam requires me to spend or deposit at least $5 in order to ask questions. So I didn't do that.
I know I have posted somewhere on a Magix forum over the years about problems I encountered with Video Deluxe. Perhaps someone can direct me to where that forum might be, because I cannot find it (any longer)?

David

I typed magix forum into a search engine, and it returned this page MAGIX Forum - Your place for news, discussing topics or getting help with MAGIX software

It looks like it may be what you're looking for.

Thanks Chris,

I was dumb enough to search for Magix Video Deluxe and that yielded no results by way of a forum. Nor did going directly to the Magix support forum.

Thanks for the hint. I think I have found it now.

David

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Video Deluxe Plus version 20.0.1.73

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I don't recognise this from Magix current catalog - do you have a product page; is it what magix now call Video Pro X ?

if you logon to your magix account you should be able to download a manual; reading this may take some time, but so will chasing round the web....

cross posted... :)

This is what I encountered: no info on Video Deluxe (let alone "Plus") on the Magix website, so no way to find the forum. My version has a Splash screen lists it as "2021". When it opens, I get an offer for version 2023. So the program is definitely still in Magix' offering, but seems to be unfindable when one goes directly to the site or wants the user forum.
As stated, reading a manual to find out how to turn on a toolbar that used to always appear, that no is "missing" is probably not going to work. I don't have a very great opinion of Magix manuals or help files. I knew I had posted on the Video editing software's forum before and got an answer pretty quickly. Who knew it was going to be this difficult. At this point the video project had been finished, rendered and uploaded, with an "iffy" transition from the zoomed section to the rest of the video at that size and position. Offends my perfectionism, but I'll live.

In the mean time, I have finally found the forum, and posted my question there.

David

Cross posted due to the fact that the Video Deluxe forum (which DOES exist) is not findable. So I asked for help on "the wrong forum".

To avoid others guessing, I suggest this: Forum for MAGIX video software > Other Products. Search for Video Deluxe Plus 2021, you might be lucky.

@David - I take it you have tried https://www.magix.info/us/support/ar...anual-pdf--71/ for the manual.
Steam links to a PDF download at https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.c...f?t=1599654586.

Acorn

Hi,

I see that you have now found the Magix forum. The following is to clear up a few things - the program name and how easy it is to find the Magix.info forum.

Video Deluxe is the name given to the Magix program in non-English speaking countries. In Enlish speaking countries, the name was Movie Edit Pro. The English name has recently been changed to Movie Studio as Vegas Movie Studio was dropped by the Vegas team so Magix created a new version that allowed basic import of old Vegas Movie Studio files into Movie Edit Pro/Magix Movie Studio. The name in non-English speaking countries is still Video Deluxe. You say that you updated recently but your version, 20.x.x.x is called VDL 2021 and is not recent. The program is now VDL2023 at version 22.x.x.x.

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There is a link on this page to the forum - MAGIX Community - which takes you to Magix.info. If you post in the English part of the forum, post under Movie Studio.

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...due to the fact that the Video Deluxe forum (which DOES exist) is not findable.

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You indicate this more than once, but it is not true so you did not look very hard. There is a link on Magix.com as I showed above and right in the program, exactly where one should look - under Help:

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in the F1 Help file:

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and in the pdf Help (manual) file which you indicated would be a waste of time to consult:

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And all of that was in Dutch.

@browj2, John thank you for taking the time to nail this down.

Acorn

I too was hoping our resident magix expert would be picking this up - thanks John