Google font embedded without problems in XD 15+ makes problems in XD19+ ?

Hello as already written in the title; I have created some sites with XD Pro+ 15 with embedded Google fonts which always worked without problems. Today I opened one of them with XD Pro+ 19 and made some minor changes. When exporting HTML it is now criticized that it is not possible to embed the Google fonts "Nuntio" or "Nuntio bold". This means that if you view the website on a PC that does not have these fonts installed, a substitute font is displayed. What I don't understand is that it used to work fine with v15 and now not with v19.

Any ideas or workaround besider render all text as grahics or reformat all graphics?

Thanks, TomTom

Nunito is a Google Font, which I have just added to my Fonts.
It renders properly without complaint:

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Fonts
Nunito Regular Installable
Verdana Editable
Verdana Bold Editableditable

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This means Xara generate a woff file (../index_htm_files/XaraWDGeneratedHTMLfont1.woff).
It creates a CSS file (../index_htm_files/xr_fonts.css) with:@font-face {font-family: 'Nunito';font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;src: url("XaraWDGeneratedHTMLfont1.woff") format("woff"), url("XaraWDEmbeddedHTMLfont1.eot?") format("embedded-opentype"), local('Nunito');
and another (../index_htm_files/xr_text.css) with: .xr_s0 {font-family:'Nunito';font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-size:24px;text-decoration:none;font-feature-settings:'kern','liga' 0,'clig' 0,'calt' 0,'titl' 0,'salt' 0,'swsh' 0,'cswh' 0;text-transform: none;color:#000000;background-color:Transparent;-webkit-text-stroke: 0px black;letter-spacing:0em;} or similar.

I would go the the XDPXv19 Text tool > Google Fonts > Add and install Nunito (again).

Never convert text to shapes, it immediately ruins what a site ought to be.
If you had XPro+, which can handle Shapes as SVG then there may be some circumstances where this could be used; the main one at present is where Xara converts rotated text to an image(!)

Acorn

(Update info)


Hello,

As already described here in this community post, a quasi-same problem occurs with me as well. It is 1:1 reproducible.

https://www.magix.info/us/forum/embe...hing--1298176/

Steps:

You create a new, empty website (e.g. 960px), make several text lines which is already enough. Now you install via Designer Pro (in my case) e.g. the Google font "Nunito" which is then imported/downloaded by Desogner Pro as the entire font family. As soon as you start formatting 2 of the several text lines that you have created in the document and formatted with "Nunito" with "Nunito Semibold" and "Nunito medium" the error occurs! When exporting as a website, the fonts "Nunito", "Nunito black", etc. "CANNOT be embedded". Even the wrong font names are displayed in the error! Nothing in the file was formatted with "Nunito black" also the name gallery (what showed that fon "Nunito black" is "used" did not mark anything = no red point when active selected. The after error message generated and uploaded website is displayed incorrectly when displayed on a computer without the "Nunito" fonts installed because the fonts are missing. Only when the text lines formatted differently in "Nunito" are removed with "Nunito Semibold" and "Nunito medium", the export works again without error message.

This happened to me with a website created with Designer Pro 15, which I opened with the installed trial version of Designer Pro 19 and further edited to esport it. The export of the named XAR file worked perfectly fine in version 15. (Background: I want to buy the update). But as I said, it also happens when you create a completely new document in Designer Pro 19 as described.

This is an extremely annoying error that should not occur. Has cost me almost an entire afternoon and evening of recherche, troubleshooting. In addition, I suspect that the exact same problem will be present on other pages that I will open and edit. For me the absolute reason NOT to buy this update to v19 before the error is not clearly fixed.

OS: Win 8.1 (according to previous inquiry directly at Xara v19 runs on Win 8.1 - there was also no error message concerning this during the installation)

The original font family "Nunito" was loaded direct from the Google website (either via Xara Designer Pro, or as ZIP) causes the export problems when using the font style "semibold" as well as "medium".

Actually, it can't be Win 8.1 either, because the same (!) XAR file works fine in export with XD Pro v15, while in v19 exactly the named error message occurs.

TomTom

TomTom, Google Fonts does not install a 'Nunito Medium' and 'Nunito Black' so I suspect you got these from elsewhere previously.
I cannot reproduce your fault following your instructions.
I only have:

• Nunito 200
• Nunito 200 italic
• Nunito 300
• Nunito 300 italic
• Nunito regular
• Nunito italic
• Nunito 600
• Nunito 600 italic
• Nunito 700
• Nunito 700 italic
• Nunito 800
• Nunito 800 italic
• Nunito 900
• Nunito 900 italic

In v19, Xara is probably now conforming to the licensing conditions more strictly. In v15, it is possible things slipped through.

Even when you believe they are not in use, you eventually find there is something like a linefeed in that particular font variant.
To "prove" you actually have the offending font variants in use, you need to select all on each page and then look at the Names Gallery.
What i do is open the xr_text.css file and establish which ClassName is being used for any font variant.
I then open the htm file and search for that ClassName.
If it is found, I note where on the page it is and edit the design.

Supply a design test page from v15 and v19 and we can check on our systems.

Acorn

@acorn

nunito is a nice font for more than just websites, which I do not do as you know

here is my installed list, which includes nunito black, but not medium

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I just went to google fonts, and add, and then installed nunito

I also did a barebones web [local] export - no issues

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Originally Posted by handrawn

@acorn
nunito is a nice font for more than just websites, which I do not do as you know
here is my installed list, which includes nunito black, but not medium

Attachment 132207

I just went to google fonts, and add, and then installed nunito
I also did a barebones web [local] export - no issues

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Cheers handrawn, I did the same and Google Fonts Library declared the variants by weight and not by appearance.

I then found 'Nunito Black' so labelled (in Xara).
Why it was not visible first time round, I don't know.
'Nunito Medium' is still adrift.

I still cannot find any clashes:

Google Font Library Xara Fonts & MS Character Map UWP
Nunito 200 Nunito ExtraLight Regular
Nunito 200 italic Nunito ExtraLight Italic
Nunito 300 Nunito Light Regular
Nunito 300 italic Nunito Light Italic
Nunito regular Nunito Regular
Nunito italic Nunito Italic
Nunito 600 Nunito Bold
Nunito 600 italic Nunito Bold Italic
Nunito 700 Nunito SemiBold Regular
Nunito 700 italic Nunito SemiBold Italic
Nunito 800 Nunito ExtraBold Regular
Nunito 800 italic Nunito ExtraBold Italic
Nunito 900 Nunito Black Regular
Nunito 900 italic Nunito Black Italic

Acorn

Hello to all,

thanks first for all tips. Here's what it has now turned out to be: In the existing xar file of the website I have removed the formatting "bold" from all texts that were formatted in "Nunito medium" with "bold" or exchanged it for other font style such as "semibold" etc. After that the export problem was solved.

However, immediately after that I encountered the next problem: Designer Pro 19 generates the first letter of the file name in capital letters when exporting ".eot" files, e.g. "XaraWDEmbeddedHTMLfont1.eot". Which my web server does NOT accept. This is also NO normal standard. Mean that because of this ccs files are not loaded and "wrong" fonts displayed. If for exampel a picture with uppercase file name used it is not shows, instead the placeholder only.

But not only that with the .eot files, because additional inside the .css files xr_fonts.css, xr_fontsie.css and xr_fontsrep.css are also capitalized with initial letter in the code. So you have to change not only the first letter of all .eot files but also the code of the 3 .css files. Only after that the fonts will be displayed correctly on the web server. This is all very annoying, as there were never such problems with v15.

Maybe there is a reason why Xara does not offer to load the font "Nunito medium" in the program itself. I had downloaded the whole font family directly from Google and installed it manually so "medium" was included. I tried to reproduce this in a document but it did not work. So when I create a new document (website) in v15, format lines with text in "Nunito medium", save it and open it with v19 and export it, there is no error message. So the problem seems to be that either some font name got mixed up or was "forgotten" in my website xar file. In any case, for example, "Nunito bold" is also displayed in the name gallery as "present" in the document - but it is not markable (and after not formatted in the document with it).

TomTom

I went to google and manually downloaded nunito mendium [ 2 variants] and installed by right click in windows - they then showed up in xara version 19, so I don't see a problem there [other than the xara internal google font install apparently not picking them up by default, but there were options]

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did you install the fonts manually one by one, or batch; batch does not always work as it should

can't help with the capitalisation as I don't do web servers, but hopefully acorn can; you never know it might just be a setting you need to change...

an important point: there appear to be only the two varients for nunito medium: regular and italic, no bold variant - it seems that both xara ver 15.1 and 19 will allow you to enhance [format] the regular and italic variants to bold using the infobar, but whereas ver 15.1 will allow you to publish, ver 19 will not, I get this message:

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which may be ver 19 saying in effect: ' there is no nunito medium bold variant installed that can be embeded' - not sure why ver 15.1 does not do this, but I know it's publishing routine is different; again maybe acorn or another member can shed some light...

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Originally Posted by handrawn

I went to google and manually downloaded nunito mendium [ 2 variants] and installed by right click in windows - they then showed up in xara version 19, so I don't see a problem there [other than the xara internal google font install apparently not picking them up by default, but there were options]

Attachment 132211

did you install the fonts manually one by one, or batch; batch does not always work as it should

can't help with the capitalisation as I don't do web servers, but hopefully acorn can; you never know it might just be a setting you need to change...

an important point: there appear to be only the two varients for nunito medium: regular and italic, no bold variant - it seems that both xara ver 15.1 and 19 will allow you to enhance [format] the regular and italic variants to bold using the infobar, but whereas ver 15.1 will allow you to publish, ver 19 will not, I get this message:

Attachment 132212

which may be ver 19 saying in effect: ' there is no nunito medium bold variant installed that can be embeded' - not sure why ver 15.1 does not do this, but I know it's publishing routine is different; again maybe acorn or another member can shed some light...

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Hello, I had first downloaded the whole font family from the Google site as a ZIP file and installed it manually (via Font installer Total Commancer) it installed 16 fonts. As part of the problem search / solution, I have uninstalled them all again and installed new ones via the Xara program. Also there it was installed as font family (it was asked if family or single font). Only that "medium" was not included here.

In v15 + before versions it was so if one equipped a font for example with the attribute "bold" which this did not have a message came that it would have no effect.

The joke was also that NOT the font "Nunito medium" was criticized as not embeddable but only "Nunito" and "Nunito black" (the latter was not used anywhere on the whole page because it was too "bold" for me). Probably (since Xara did not "know" "medium") this message referred in reality to "medium" then.

I have also written to Xara now because there the support is more experienced, faster and better than Magix Germany.

Thanks, TomTom

you are welcome

since you are using ver 19 and ver 15, which are both Magix' responsibility to support and not Xara's [Xara now only supports pro+/cloud], it will be interesting to see what response you do get :)

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Originally Posted by TomTom66

Designer Pro 19 generates the first letter of the file name in capital letters when exporting ".eot" files, e.g. "XaraWDEmbeddedHTMLfont1.eot". Which my web server does NOT accept. This is also NO normal standard. Mean that because of this ccs files are not loaded and "wrong" fonts displayed. If for exampel a picture with uppercase file name used it is not shows, instead the placeholder only.

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TomTom, I have never encountered this.

MS web servers are case-insensitive so any combination invokes the file.
Unix servers are not, but even with case-sensitivity, you will access an named file if you match each letter's case.

Can you provide the standard that disallows Initial case filenames?

Your service provide may have chosen to invoke an .htaccess file setting that blocks Initial case letters but it would need to have a fairly good reason for that.

Acorn

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Originally Posted by handrawn

you are welcome

since you are using ver 19 and ver 15, which are both Magix' responsibility to support and not Xara's [Xara now only supports pro+/cloud], it will be interesting to see what response you do get :)

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Not just all correct ;-) since I have now 2 test versions :-), one from Magix v19 and XD Pro+ actual. Matt from xara did advice me doing this as Magix is far behind with some updates.

matt is very helpful ;)

I downloaded the entire nunito font family with the same results as Acorn, what I do not understand is why medium is not included since it can be downloaded and installed separately.

Update:

Hello, to all! I had this problem again today with a website using Nunito fonts. A supposedly not embeddable font "Nunito Black2" was given as error message. In the then generated website, a different font was then also displayed at these text passages. Using Acorn's instructions, I quickly identified it using the .CCS class names. This time the font "Nunito Black" was affected. After I exchanged headlines with this font against "Nunito SemiBold" the problem was solved. What surprised me is that apparently the same font style, e.g. "Nunito" (regular) is either listed several times as Nunito1, Nunito2, Nunito3 in the CSS file OR it is "Nunito" (regular) in "BOLD" etc.

All in all very confusing and the absolute final cause I have neither found nor been able to reproduce. Personally it seems to me that this happens when you change a font several times, e.g. "Nunito SemiBold" to "Nunito Bold" (or back again). Maybe there is no "update" in the document (?) Previously, the problem was with "Nunito Medium" or if, for example, "Nunito Medium" was marked with "bold" and another Nunito font was used in the document such as "Nunito Semibiold" and also marked in the same document in "bold".

Then I got the message that it was impossible to embed this font. Mostly as obscure information like Nunito2, Nunito3 or Nunito Black2 and so on. It also happened to me with the Monserat font. I suspect that something is not working perfectly with the embedding. It is clear that v15 worked differently, because there was never this problem. What I also noticed in v19 is that earlier when a font was not embeddable (also e.g. because of license) it was enough to group the line (Ctrl. + G) which converted it then text into a graphic. Now, however, somehow no longer works as before v15. I had a logo where a font "English" was used, the font is installed, is used for years by me, there were never problems. Xara showed a completely different replacement font in the generated website. Grouping the whole logo (which ALWAYS solved such a problem in the past!) did absolutely nothing. Switching and re-switching the font didn't help either.

The only final solution was to create a bitmap copy and use it. I had the same problem in the same document (website) with a headline in the font "English" (the font works fine everywhere else, for years, even in all Xara versions before). Again, neither grouping nor switching helped. Only converting to a bitmap copy worked as a workaround. Very confusing, but so far cost me a lot of time for troubleshooting and pointless "experiments" which I was never used to from Xara Pro+.

TomTom

hope I am not stealing OP issue/
but mine is similar ... so thought to add it here
let me know if I should have made my own thread
every time I load my .xar - it says font not loaded
yet it is not in my used font list - (but it does show up in document info)
(trying to upload a pix from my computer - but it does not appear? why not?)
I even tried BBC codes etc - I just get links to appear

nor is it in the google fonts to add
where can (how ) do I sech my site for where it is used? so I can replace it
maybe is embedded in one of my widgets?


why is this just a link and not displayed?
https://i.imgur.com/qt27wZm.jpg

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[Acorn]

How to add an image to a Post in TG

The Post top toolbar has an Inset Image icon - click this.
The pop-up window has two tabs - From Computer & From URL.

I followed the link above and opened the image in its own tab and copied its URL and added it to the From URL input box and pressed OK.

Hello TheeeDragon. No problem. Fonts used in the document are displayed in the Name Gallery: Utilities -> Galleries -> Name Gallery. There scroll down to "Uses Fonts". Installed fonts are displayed in the Fonts Gallery: Utilities -> Galleries -> Fonts Gallery.

I was going to check if: 1.) The font is listed there 2.) The font is listed in Windows (Search bar: Enter Fonts or Fonts). If yes, search for the font online, download it. Then delete the font on the computer, reboot and reinstall it ("Fonts / Install Fonts"). Or if it is in the list, reinstall it directly in Xara via Fonts Gallery -> "Get fonts...".

Hope this helps.


TomTom

@ theeedragon

you cannot embed images - you need to press the go advanced button bottom right and then scroll down to manage attachments button and then upload

your link works for me

@ theeedragon

A fast, elegant & easy way to upload, host the image and generate the link to post is also install the "small sized" screenshot tool from here.

https://postimages.org/

No ... NEVER attach images that are hosted elsewhere. BAD practice.

Use ATTACHMENTS as handrawn suggested earlier.

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Originally Posted by TomTom66

Update:

Hello, to all! I had this problem again today with a website using Nunito fonts. A supposedly not embeddable font "Nunito Black2" was given as error message. In the then generated website, a different font was then also displayed at these text passages. Using Acorn's instructions, I quickly identified it using the .CCS class names. This time the font "Nunito Black" was affected. After I exchanged headlines with this font against "Nunito SemiBold" the problem was solved. What surprised me is that apparently the same font style, e.g. "Nunito" (regular) is either listed several times as Nunito1, Nunito2, Nunito3 in the CSS file OR it is "Nunito" (regular) in "BOLD" etc.

All in all very confusing and the absolute final cause I have neither found nor been able to reproduce. Personally it seems to me that this happens when you change a font several times, e.g. "Nunito SemiBold" to "Nunito Bold" (or back again). Maybe there is no "update" in the document (?) Previously, the problem was with "Nunito Medium" or if, for example, "Nunito Medium" was marked with "bold" and another Nunito font was used in the document such as "Nunito Semibiold" and also marked in the same document in "bold".

Then I got the message that it was impossible to embed this font. Mostly as obscure information like Nunito2, Nunito3 or Nunito Black2 and so on. It also happened to me with the Monserat font. I suspect that something is not working perfectly with the embedding. It is clear that v15 worked differently, because there was never this problem. What I also noticed in v19 is that earlier when a font was not embeddable (also e.g. because of license) it was enough to group the line (Ctrl. + G) which converted it then text into a graphic. Now, however, somehow no longer works as before v15. I had a logo where a font "English" was used, the font is installed, is used for years by me, there were never problems. Xara showed a completely different replacement font in the generated website. Grouping the whole logo (which ALWAYS solved such a problem in the past!) did absolutely nothing. Switching and re-switching the font didn't help either.

The only final solution was to create a bitmap copy and use it. I had the same problem in the same document (website) with a headline in the font "English" (the font works fine everywhere else, for years, even in all Xara versions before). Again, neither grouping nor switching helped. Only converting to a bitmap copy worked as a workaround. Very confusing, but so far cost me a lot of time for troubleshooting and pointless "experiments" which I was never used to from Xara Pro+.

TomTom

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TomTom, I have not dug into how Xara now delivers its WOFF files but the naming is irrelevant as it is just a label (the src url link to the woff is what matters). It further offers a local cascade of font names to assist the browser to pick the right one. Some of the names I have have a prefix like xr3_ or xr5_, which is saying use Nunito and programmatically render Bold or Bold-Italic, if no font weight or style is available. Where I have used Nunito ExtraBold, the local label includes NunitoExtraBold. All seems rugged.

What I am more certain about is Font Grouping.
In the past Xara created a Bitmap from grouped text. It still does with rotated text. Both are horrible for Accessibility.
You can still get this with grouped text but you need to pick Web Properties > Image > Group web export: Export group as a single image.
In X Pro+v21 and coming (soon) to XDPX/XWD(P), if you Convert to Editable Shapes, the glyphs are rendered as SVG so are scalable, without jaggies.

Acorn

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Originally Posted by TheeeDragon

hope I am not stealing OP issue/
but mine is similar ... so thought to add it here
let me know if I should have made my own thread
every time I load my .xar - it says font not loaded
yet it is not in my used font list - (but it does show up in document info)
(trying to upload a pix from my computer - but it does not appear? why not?)
I even tried BBC codes etc - I just get links to appear

nor is it in the google fonts to add
where can (how ) do I sech my site for where it is used? so I can replace it
maybe is embedded in one of my widgets?


why is this just a link and not displayed?
https://i.imgur.com/qt27wZm.jpg

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[Acorn]

How to add an image to a Post in TG

The Post top toolbar has an Inset Image icon - click this.
The pop-up window has two tabs - From Computer & From URL.

I followed the link above and opened the image in its own tab and copied its URL and added it to the From URL input box and pressed OK.

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yes -- I click the image icon that says insert image and tried from the computer
browse to files and upload
then nothing
let me try the URL version
https://imgur.com/958iRfb

hmmm,,, the same effect
just shows the link
DO I need to be an approved member to show photos?

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Originally Posted by TheeeDragon

yes -- I click the image icon that says insert image and tried from the computer
browse to files and upload
then nothing
let me try the URL version
https://imgur.com/958iRfb

hmmm,,, the same effect
just shows the link
DO I need to be an approved member to show photos?

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TD, check Thread Display Option is ticked in https://www.talkgraphics.com/profile.php?do=editoptions

Acorn

it was ticked
but I played with ALL syntax,
and I think I got it to work now
using URL and direct link option from online photo storage


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,(still not sure why can not upload from laptop)
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if I ever knew you could attach that way [as opposed to embed] without going through the manager I had forgotten.... works ok for me though...

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Good to know!

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Originally Posted by NicosSwann2

I haven't delved into Xara's current method of delivering WOFF files, but the naming aspect seems inconsequential, serving merely as a label. What holds significance is the src URL link directing to the WOFF file. The system also presents a localized cascade of font names, aiding browsers in optimal selection.

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This looks like an AI-generate paraphrasing from my Post:

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I have not dug into how Xara now delivers its WOFF files but the naming is irrelevant as it is just a label (the src url link to the woff is what matters). It further offers a local cascade of font names to assist the browser to pick the right one.

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If so then paraphrase this: 'You should incline from a shaking personification. Prevention of cat cloning is imperative.'

Acorn

bet you spam

and lo - u is gon :D

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Originally Posted by handrawn

bet you spam
and lo - u is gon :D

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yes, even as you typed the bad man went away:

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Acorn