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Arch-Med1 recently asked me in a PM the following question leading from a video I did re sub-folders.
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Good Day Sir,
I am doing the very same thing your Sub-Site Youtube video shows and I found it very informative.
If I may ask, for the sub-site pages, how were the Web Properties and Page Properties entries set up on each page, and how was the Publish To Web (I would be using the Xara publisher and my own host) set up when the Subfolders were published to when an individual page had to be published to the folder?
Was the .xar file published to a folder in the "Properties" subfolder, into an existing folder saying "Prop 1", or was the .xar document named "Prop 1" and the folder was created in the "Properties" sub folder?
Thank you.
Arch-Med1.
I've informed him PM's are not the best way forward. If I answer him on a PM only he may glean some knowledge and it's far better to post on the TG Forum where others may also be able to benifit from the answer.
I'm not 100% sure of his question but perhaps a couple of screen grabs of the Xara publish option may help.
P.S. Can a mod move this to the correct forum please.
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Moved.
Thank you Egg.
The complication with your screenshots is they both show .XARs loaded in them.
This will confuse @ArchMed1 as design files do not need to be published only retained safely.
Acorn
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I had a teacher once who responded to a question I asked that applied to the whole class and said, I would rather tell 30 people one time than tell one person 30 times.
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The complication with your screenshots is they both show .XARs loaded in them.
This will confuse @ArchMed1 as design files do not need to be published only retained safely.
Agreed Acorn, I don't normally upload the xar files to my server, just keep them on my local PC.
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I had a teacher once who responded to a question I asked that applied to the whole class and said, I would rather tell 30 people one time than tell one person 30 times.
Indeed Gary!
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Since the video has been posted on the forum as a link I saw no issue in snipping a frame and showing the nature of my request.
I was interested in seeing how Mr. Bramhill set up the Web and Page properties for the .web or .xar on the Properties page, and how he set up the web host settings (without revealing his personal info of course) for the publication of the sub folders to his domain. I was interested in how the fields in these boxes were setup. I made no request for a .xar file.
I would not be interested in seeing anyone's personal .xar, but a snip on how it was accomplished without the personal details. All part of the learning experience. Mr. Bramhill's video does not go into detail about this part of the procedure.
One link that was supposed to go into detail on this in a previous post is not available on the web anymore. The Xone workbook details the concept, but not the actual settings on how it would be accomplished. They are not included in the documentation.
Note that some users on this forum have not used the software for years as many of the moderators have. There is a learning curve, thank you. And from the reads on some of these forums several have been on here for quite some time.
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Mr. Bramhill's video does not go into detail about this part of the procedure.
Perhaps that's my failing Arch but I did believe I explained it in some depth on the video, to the best of my abillity.
Basically you create two websites in Xara, publish one to your servers root folder and publish the second site to a sub-directory below that. You create your navigation menu to switch between the two.
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OK, Mr. Bramhill, thank you. New inquiry:
For the Davora Site...a snip please as you did before (very helpful here):
On two of the subfolder pages Prop#1-Prop#2 (I would ask to see two-the Prop#1 index and Prop#2) what was entered on the Web Properties tab and Page Properties tab for any of the pages named (Prop#1-Prop#2)? If I may...
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Egg is quite likely asleep now, but when I make sub sites I leave the Website Name blank as it's part of the main website.
The Page File Name should remain as 'index', but the page title can be anything descriptive you like.
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@Egg - I would still like the referenced images when you come back to the forum.
@Chris - Combined with information I received about the sub-folders previously by email from Acorn I believe now I am beginning to see the light. It just takes a bit to absorb the forgone material without being a little overwhelmed by the complexity of the project. This process was explained in detail, it just took a little to shower some light.
The concern was my Articles subfolder will contain all the faux science articles on the website, with a connected project file of (root) home/about/contact/issues/news/staff that serves as the main site. The Article subfolder will be designated on the Publish tab. I knew this.
What I did not know is when, for example, I publish A26.xar project page file to the Articles subfolder, in the 'subfolder (optional) field, do I put 'Articles/A26, so 'A26' creates a folder in the Articles subfolder? Is this how it is done? Then the next .xar project page file published would be "Articles/A27", then "Articles/A28" and so on until all the articles are published into the Articles folder?
Each .xar project page file is a one page article only. So A26 is a one page .xar file. There are about 40 of them.
Or do I create a folder when publishing to the Article folder in the subfolder field, for example - the A26 article's H1 Heading title is "Alligator Eats Camera", in the Publish tab subfolder field at the time of publishing do I put "Articles/Alligator Eats Camera/" so it shows in the URL as 'www,mysite.com/Articles/alligator-eats-camera/ and that folder is created in the Articles subfolder on the server?
More here:
A26 www.mysite.com/Articles/alligator-eats-camera/,
A27 www.mysite.com/Articles/bird-talks/,
A28 is www.mysite.com/Articles/pond-haunted-by-ghost/
Of course, as mentioned, all the links on the main and subsequent pages there are links to the articles would have to be changed as this one example from "Articles/A26/index.htm" to "Articles/alligator-eats-camera/". "Articles/A26/index.htm" is how the files and links are now set up for housekeeping.
At this point the Web Properties/Webpage Title field with "C Bourne Journal - Ireland' will NOT show up in any of this, as the URL is grabbed from the file folder and not the .xar itself.
The Web Properties/Page Filename field is populated by 'index", as each page is in itself a small website. Is this correct?
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Going to be honest and say that I'm not following this at all. Can you clarify a couple of points as I'm not sure if you need sub folders at all?
Are 'alligator-eats-camera', 'bird-talks' and 'pond-haunted-by-ghosts' each a single page? I understand there's a lot more, but will they all be single page?
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ArchMed1 commissioned me to build a website based on his source material.
We had a top-level site (Main & Variants) of around 8 pages.
Additionally, he want to include Articles (Main & Variants) that are a long journal page with text and a fair number of images.
These were all set up design file A01.xar through A40.xar upwards. As each was set as index.htm, they all need to be in sub-folders under the Articles sub-folder.
So the delivered structure was:
- Top-level - 8 x htm & index_htm_files folder
- Articles
- A01 - index.htm & index_htm_files folder
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- A40 - index.htm & index_htm_files folder
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It was designed this way to avoid a gigantic design file and to make updating of Articles and adding new ones far easier.
All good and the delivery came in around 80+ design pages as at the time it was Main + Variant).
ArchMed1 than was shown either how to Publish all from the XDA itself or by FTP (FileZilla).
Job done.
ArchMed1 then decided, post-delivery and outwith our agreement, each Article URL needed to use the hyphen-separated Title instead.
So for the Article "Pond haunted by Ghost", the A28.xar design file has Page filename instead of 'index' set as 'pond-haunted-by-ghost'.
The required structure now can be:
- Top-level - 8 x htm & index_htm_files folder
- Articles
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- alligator-eats-camera.htm & alligator-eats-camera_htm_files folder
- bird-talks.htm & bird-talks_htm_files folder
- pond-haunted-by-ghost.htm & pond-haunted-by-ghost_htm_files folder
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In doing so you lose a useful reference back to the design file for the gain of putting all the Articles and their supporting files into a single bucket of the Articles folder.
ArchMed1 now only publishes to the top-level site and to the Articles subfolder for the remainder.
Through the XDA this has to be set up for each design file at the start.
If required the Articles can still sit in their own sub-folder but the URL would then become:
- (../Articles/)A26/alligator-eats-camera.htm & alligator-eats-camera_htm_files folder
- (../Articles/)A27/bird-talks.htm & bird-talks_htm_files folder
- (../Articles/)A28/pond-haunted-by-ghost.htm & pond-haunted-by-ghost_htm_files folder
If using FileZilla, you Export Websites to a root folder for the top-level and an Articles sub-folder for the rest.
Then you transfer across to the server.
All previously explained with diagrams to him, many times with different scenarios explained.
Acorn :O
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I thought it was too complex for someone asking the questions ArchMed1 was asking. It was also very specific, as if the site existed, but the creator had suddenly walked away and left ArchMed1 holding the baby.
Glad there's someone steering the boat.
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I thought it was too complex for someone asking the questions ArchMed1 was asking. It was also very specific, as if the site existed, but the creator had suddenly walked away and left ArchMed1 holding the baby. Glad there's someone steering the boat.
The "creator" did walk away after leaving enough nappies, clothes, instructions and baby milk for a long time. The baby-holder then decided the baby's gender needs to be altered requiring a clothes change, but that was their choice as "Mother knows best."
Acorn
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Pfft, babies and their genders, whatever next? :D
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Without being bland, there were significant things that were not complete that would be a 'common expectation' for a complete site that I have gone ahead and completed and in fact redesigned for the better. The top site home page has been redesigned to a better result, complete with slider for selected articles. The pages were also improved, including 1 mobile variant that was added and completed by yours truly for ALL pages and a medium variant that was anything but standardized to 'commissioned delivery' that had to be adjusted as well'.
Yes, not bad for a beginner. Fixing a many years experienced workman's work with a company in Dorset. Wait till you see the site.
And please recall @Acorn, you did call yourself a weird old Brit making a bunch of websites. I have the email.
Instructions would be simple if the person taking the diagrams and all else were versed in the Xara software, which I am not. This top level pages and subfolders I have never come across before, as I have used SERIF for may years and published down single project websites, not nothing like this. As it stands, the layout I am beginning to realize as Acorn mentioned it should be but I do not speak extreme Xaraese. I do not have the experience with Filezilla, custom index files work and what have you that was daffly explained in @Acorns emails, which are now beginning to make sense after reading the forums. So the forums help out the novice immensely. Thumbs up.
I can publish down the .xars into the Articles folder, no issue, once I have the detailed view of what I am doing and how to set the WebProperties/ Website vs Page vs Publish dialogue settings set, not to mention how the .xar should be presented at time of publish. What is so hard about that for a novice? Links and all I can readjust. Took me a day to get the basics of the software, and a few weeks to get moving on it without interruption.
With version samples that you, yourself @Acorn, have tested and found to be working properly, with the exception of Safari I believe, which you said you did not have a module for. Oops! There is another one of your emails again I have.
@Acorn - thank you for your assistance now, your commission was and is ended for my benefit and nothing more. You received the fairest of compensation. I'll take it from here, thank you.
Now, I'll do a little work and get studying more of these forum posts and Acorn's past publishing instructions, as I have been reading without a translation dictionary, so if anyone would like to weigh in even with a PM I'll take it. I will have this site up and running regardless. But there have been disappointments.
I'll come back after I review some notes for straight instructions to get this out and done. The content is ready. Share buttons are pending (my preferred style). The subfolders are waiting.
Thank you, all.
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If there is curiosity, here is the concept provided by Mr. A to me by email. The site is already in content and assets, and complete. 3 variants (Main, Tablet and Mobile). Attachment 130636
All that was needed and the purpose of my posts was to get the detailed instructions to get the site set up (I was going to use Xara, not Filezilla) and to reflect on the address bar of the browser the article name. As each article is in itself a website with an index. Replace the 'feature' with 'articles' in the address and this is what I want to set up for in the end result.
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I, personally, think one of the hardest things to do is to 'take on' someone else's work. Add to that having to learn new software and ask for help in a second language...well done, you have my admiration.
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I, personally, think one of the hardest things to do is to 'take on' someone else's work. Add to that having to learn new software and ask for help in a second language...well done, you have my admiration.
Many thanks, Chris M. Now all I need is the answer.
Actually, Egg's scenario is similar to mine as he has the Prop#- and the video did not quite answer the question on how the subfolder files showed up as they did in the address bar and how the web site properties/page properties were set to accomplish what he did, in simple terms. This is what I am waiting for.
It's not a problem to do the task, I need to know HOW to do it. I can do it myself.
Another sample of the idea was demonstrated by this link found in the Xone workbook posted a few areas of this forum:
http://www.gwpriester.com/kitchen/index.html
http://archive.xaraxone.com/webxealo...kbook%201.html
September in itself is a website, off of the main site, like each of these articles will be in the Articles folder. If you nav through the navigation bar of this kitchen project you will see September is a subsite.
Egg's video is better. I would have loved to see how the Prop# pages were set in the folders. And how they were published down. As you can see, no settings steps are set in any tutorials I can find.
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Actually, Egg's scenario is similar to mine as he has the Prop#- and the video did not quite answer the question on how the subfolder files showed up as they did in the address bar and how the web site properties/page properties were set to accomplish what he did, in simple terms. This is what I am waiting for.
I'm sorry Arch, I just don't understand the question. You create a base website. Below that you create article sub-sites. Acorns diagram explains it fully.
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If there is curiosity, here is the concept provided by Mr. A to me by email. The site is already in content and assets, and complete. 3 variants (Main, Tablet and Mobile).
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This is the email context immediately preceding the diagram:
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Site Integration
We will have the main site and a clutch of Articles.
The Article as [sic] effectively one-page sites.
Each Article's access is to its index.htm file.
As you cannot have more than one in a folder, we have to place the Articles in separate folders.
For easy reference, we call each A01, A02, ...
When you link from the main site to any Article, the Link path is straightforward: e.g., Articles/A25/index.htm.
The backlinks to the main site are part of the Articles Template and are basically, go up one folder level (../), go up another (..) and reference the required page: e.g., ../../staff.htm.
We can add Anchors to main and Article locations and the Link gains an anchor extension e.g., ../../staff.htm#CEO. From within the main site we use Xara's Link to anchor: CEO. Anchors can be Heading Styles. If we have these, you could automatically create a Table of Contents.
After delivery, you chose to include a 480px Mobile Variant and change all Article filenames to snake-case Titles.
Within your Warranty period, I provided technical advice on how to implement these out-of-scope changes.
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Without being bland, there were significant things that were not complete that would be a 'common expectation' for a complete site that I have gone ahead and completed and in fact redesigned for the better. The top site home page has been redesigned to a better result, complete with slider for selected articles. The pages were also improved, including 1 mobile variant that was added and completed by yours truly for ALL pages and a medium variant that was anything but standardized to 'commissioned delivery' that had to be adjusted as well'.
Yes, not bad for a beginner. Fixing a many years experienced workman's work with a company in Dorset. Wait till you see the site.
And please recall @Acorn, you did call yourself a weird old Brit making a bunch of websites. I have the email.
@ArchMed1
- There were no "significant things" incomplete.
- There was no "common expectation"; there was a contract. "I have the email."
- I did not "call yourself a weird old Brit making a bunch of websites. I have the email."
- I stated "Besides, you can always tell your friends you got 32 websites for only $1,000 from this weird Brit."
- You are ageist.
- The only "bunch of websites" was your Articles, each of which was reworked from variable sources a minimum of eight times, involving exporting and testing every time.
- You got support from 14 March to 01 July 2021 for a "one month" project of 25-hours costed effort, on which I spent closer to 100 hours and 100 emails.
I feel you need to reflect on what you are choosing to assert.
Do take up any issues with me personally.
Acorn
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Yes, indeed.
Distance is always an issue when dealing with persons personally. As yet, the suggestion is unproductive.
Now, onto business.
I'm reading these notes throughout the day. But I will later post an email that was to explained but the procedure left undefined if needed.
Here is the Question. Remember, we are a beginner in subfolder publishing here....
What step by step procedure do you do to accomplish turning the A35 .xar into the URL below? I will use the Xara for the download.
What would be the settings when this article .xar (A35) is published to the Articles folder the Publish Details tab?
Do the settings need to be different that was what delivered here (in WebProperties/Website and Webproperties/Page Tab)?
Do you publish down the A35.xar in Publish Details as is to create the folder needed?
Does the A35.xar have to be changed in name BEFORE publishing to the Articles folder, or AFTER (I would guess before) so it says on the URL when published:
https://bourneuniversity.org/Article...toqqortoornit/ (see sample)
When is the folder name changed to reflect this URL (instead of it publishing as is and showing up as www.bourne/Articles/A35....?)
Of course, the links have to be changed on the Main Home Page that leads to the articles. No problem there.
Here is what was delivered for A35 Website and Page Properties.
Give me the step by step instruction on how to turn this A35 folder to end up as the URL noted and we go for gold, including settings. How simple!
Each article is a single website, published into the Articles folder. There is one .xar per article. So there are 40 .xars individually to be published into the Articles folder.
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@ArchMed1, the email I sent you on 13 June 2021 totally explained the two approaches you seemed adamant on going for.
The first approach that I presented:
Attribute |
Value |
Design Filename |
GREEN TKAI 2-A35.xar |
Heading 1 (H1) article title |
GREENLAND: MORE PREHISTORIC RUINS UNEARTHED NEAR ITTOQQORTOORNIIT |
Website (and default Page) Title (Meta) |
© Bourne University - GREEN TKAI 2 |
Page filename |
index.htm |
When published to sub-folder Articles/greenland-more-prehistoric-ruins-unearthed-near-Ittoqqortoornit/, you get:
Most servers will resolve https://bourneuniversity.org/Article...toqqortoornit/ alone properly. You need to check that your service provider's default is index.htm and not index.html.
All this is doing for you is renaming the A35 folder to greenland-more-prehistoric-ruins-unearthed-near-Ittoqqortoornit; where you take the Heading 1 Article Title and snake-case that, omitting the copyright, as you advised you now required.
- Your Image 1 Left is unchanged
- Your Image 1 Right is unchanged
- Your Image 2 has the sub-folder (optional) box include: Articles/greenland-more-prehistoric-ruins-unearthed-near-Ittoqqortoornit
- Your Image 3 would then resolve to https://bourneuniversity.org/Article...rnit/index.htm
- I did advise you would need to check how to hide the index.htm through your service provider:
- Since delivery, you changed your service provider as GoDaddy would charge you for SSH provision.
The second approach that I presented:
- Your Image 1 Left is unchanged
- Your Image 1 Right would have the Page filename set to greenland-more-prehistoric-ruins-unearthed-near-Ittoqqortoornit
- Your Image 2 has the sub-folder (optional) box include: Articles
- Your Image 4 would then resolve to https://bourneuniversity.org/Article...qortoornit.htm
All of this is fully documented in the email along with an image of the Other web host settings for GoDaddy.
I also went to the pain of describing the mechanism for FileZilla as you had made no decision well after delivery.
When you establish the approach you want, you then need to rework all the linkages from the top-level site to the Articles.
In summary, you have always had the appropriate information available. Your uncertainty has arisen through you again changing your mind or being undecided at to what approach you want.
You chose not to ever publish and check what was delivered. I believe you never even exported all the design files to a local folder to check linkages.
I did both, repeatedly.
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Seem's to me that you're working for free again on the forum Acorn even though you've met your contract agreement.
Arch, why would you want a url as long as:
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Two points of warning.
1) I did not know Acorn had anything to do with the site. Acorn is highly respected on TG and, trust me when I say, his advice would be far better than my guess.
2) I find it hard to understand what you are specifically trying to say. I believe English is not your first language, and I mean no disrespect in that statement. Test everything before changing your live site.
Using a site I have as an example, I think you are asking...
Main site - auzlink.net.au
Sub site - player/hs
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My published files would go into a sub folder named 'players' and a sub sub folder named 'hs'. I can name these folders anything I like.
I actually use the page in an iframe, but the URL looks like this...
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Note the tab name is 'index'. To change that you need to add a Page Name
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Which makes the browser tab
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Seem's to me that you're working for free again on the forum Acorn even though you've met your contract agreement.
Arch, why would you want a url as long as:
Thank you, Egg. Pull up any news magazine and select any articles to read and the URL looks just like how I showed it. It's aesthetics for the faux of a professional news magazine. I would post some magazine examples but they are not mine and I would not want to violate any rules of the forum.
A news magazine or site would say like www.abcdnews.com/planet-mars-attacks-paris/, and not www.abcdnews.com/Articles/M22. Just saying.
I did find a forum post that not only had your Subsite Video Tutorial but also your .xars for both Davora and the Properties subsite here:
https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...e-please/page2
I do not know why the keywords did not work to find these later articles through the forum Search function so I researched through Google today and I found more posts on this site using this function.
Acorn is in no way obligated to post on this subject in the forum. Our biz is concluded.
I also found a post regarding the same question I had regarding subfolder creation on the server, as I thought:
https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...te-PLEASE-help
It answered some questions.
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@ Chris M - this is what the doctor ordered. I can study these and the notes from a previously engaged contractor, along with these recently discovered posts and I have what I am looking for. Yes, my English is good. I think I am just putting more pressured thought into this causing some 'failures to communicate'.
Q: Now if each article has to have an index, as it is in itself a 'website' (one .xar per one article per one subfolder within Articles) does naming the folder where the .xar is published to the name of the article in Header 1 "Mars Attacks Paris" get the URL "www.bourneuniversity/Articles/mars-attacks-paris? Yes?
The name of the WebProperties Page filename is now 'index' in all 40 .xars I have. This has to remain, since each .xar is an individual single page website in it's own folder. If I am wrong, please say.
This is where I was lost. I was thinking I had to change the .xar design file's name itself to the article's Header 1 title to get the URL desired. But not so.
I have to create all 40 subfolders within the Articles subsite folder on the server so all the .xars can be published into each folder separately. Links must reflect the new folder name on the Main home pages with thumbnail images that link to each article in the Articles subsite.
Target in site.
Thank you for your attention. I'll proceed and if any questions come, I'll post, of course. Respected or not.
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Another tripping point may be the terminology being used.
The .xar (or .web) is the working/project file and the naming of it has nothing to do with URLs or publishing. Example 'Double Pickled Pickles'.xar
The index.htm can, but shouldn't, be renamed. All browsers see index.htm as the root and don't display it. Example - mysite.com/index.htm will have a URL display of mysite.com. Consequently, any sub folders will display in the same way.
mysite.com/pickles (folder)/pickled-cucumber-in-radish-sauce (folder) will house index.htm (file) and index_htm_files (folder) and the URL display will be - mysite.com/pickles/pickled-cucumber-in-radish-sauce/
mysite.com/pickles (folder)/egg (folder) will also house index.htm (file) and index_htm_files (folder) - URL display mysite.com/pickles/egg/
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Another tripping point may be the terminology being used.
Many thanks. I did my best to get the terminology right, just like you are saying. I see I dropped the ball a few times. But this explains everything I needed to know, especially this last post.
:)
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@Chris M - So when the individual article folders are created on the server a '/' will be needed in front of the folder name like you showed here (/egg).
Example: "/mars-attacks-paris" AND NOT "mars-attacks-paris". For the folder name.
Or are the hyphens generated on publication so I can name the folders...
Example: '/mars attacks paris'
Which is correct, please?
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ArchMed1 - I am glad you are not my client.
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ArchMed1 - I am glad you are not my client.
Thank you, gwpriester. But the job gets done. While I would prefer not to be anyone's client, these forums help out to be on your own invaluably. :)
So they are appreciated.
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@Chris M - So when the individual article folders are created on the server a '/' will be needed in front of the folder name like you showed here (/egg).
Example: "/mars-attacks-paris" AND NOT "mars-attacks-paris". For the folder name.
Or are the hyphens generated on publication so I can name the folders...
Example: '/mars attacks paris'
Which is correct, please?
No, the hyphens are not generated automatically. If you leave spaces in your folder/filenames you will end up with 'mars%20attacks%20paris'.
In this instance, the forward slash / denotes a sub folder and they ARE automatically added. You would name your folders space-wars and mars-attacks-paris. The URL would be space-wars/mars-attacks-paris
Play around yourself with a small test site, it's the best way to learn.
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Thank you, Egg. Pull up any news magazine and select any articles to read and the URL looks just like how I showed it. It's aesthetics for the faux of a professional news magazine. I would post some magazine examples but they are not mine and I would not want to violate any rules of the forum.
No it doesn't and why would you need it to show a long url? The page url is shown in the browsers url window which is often not full browser width depending on the viewers personal settings.
In the attachment below I give three examples of the near usefullness of creating meaningful url's as opposed to Acorns method of using an article number.
If you think it helps in your SEO ranking this is of very little importance either.
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Play around yourself with a small test site, it's the best way to learn.
@Chris M: Thank you again. You saved me a major error. With all this gracious information I should be ready to start the publish in a week, after adjustments to the links.
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In the attachment below I give three examples of the near usefullness of creating meaningful url's as opposed to Acorns method of using an article number.
If you think it helps in your SEO ranking this is of very little importance either.
@Egg - here are three professional magazines of the type I am emulating with this website. A faux university archaeological journal. You find they all use the method I am using for the URLs. But keep in mind, I have created a shortened text from the Header 1 fields in the article for the subfolder to keep it smaller on the URL but consistent with the nature of the article.
I did not believe it had anything to do with SEO - it's all about the aesthetics of a reader visiting the site - relaying it is an actual professional journal website.
I agree it would be easier to use the original method of using Articles/A26, Articles/A22, etc., but it's about the presentation, and when I visit any other site, this would glare out at me in an instant. So does a home page or article page that has "index" as the page's title. Some will noticed it right away.
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Yes Arch you supply examples but what is the worth/value of such url's?
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Yes Arch you supply examples but what is the worth/value of such url's?
As I mentioned, "it's all about the aesthetics of a reader visiting the site - relaying it is an actual professional journal website."
It has nothing to do with the mechanics of the website - just the appearance of the site as an actual, professional scientific journal. It's just frosting for appearance.
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Yes you supplied the url's but you don't explain their value.
As I pointed out often the browser url window is not full width, so long url's are meaningless, so where does 'the aesthetics of a reader visiting the site' come into play if it's not visible in it's entirety?
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I agree it would be easier to use the original method of using Articles/A26, Articles/A22, etc., but it's about the presentation, and when I visit any other site, this would glare out at me in an instant.
So my example of the BBC website page using https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58616727 as a url is unprofessional, really?
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So does a home page or article page that has "index" as the page's title. Some will noticed it right away.
Indeed that's why the page can have a page filename as well as a page title:
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I cannot explain it any better. The magazines I am emulating use this URL method and their naming of the folders which I am not going to do. I'm shortening my article Header 1 article titles to name the subfolders so it makes the names smaller so they fit the URL entirely. It's just appearance and the look of the entire page, like having all T's and I's crossed for this type of publication, Egg.
Like these American news publications:
https://nypost.com/2021/09/19/gabby-...rida-cops-say/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...-home-n1279537
If the BBC wants to do it their way, fine, the US drinks beer cold and the UK drinks theirs warm, except for lager, am I right?
But thanks for the Webproperties thumbnail. I can definitely use this. :)
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You're missing my point entirely Arch. Why use long url's? The two examples above do not completely fit into my browser's url window, they are cut off. They will be cut down in length dependant on the visitors browser, browser setting and the number of plug-ins they have installed etc etc etc. You have no control over this.
Even more so the browser tabs content which shows either:
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US closes part of Tex
dependant on the number of tabs I have open.
So if the complete url isn't shown in the browser nor in the page tab what is your fixation with long url's. They don't even render full length within Google searchs. They have little influence on SEO. :banghead:
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I'm shortening my article Header 1 article titles to name the subfolders so it makes the names smaller so they fit the URL entirely.
I don't understand this statement at all.