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Have been using Xara Designer for over 12 years now.

We are a food supplements business and allow customers to sell products under their own label. We use templates but also allow customers to create new designs.
The software we use is Xara Designer Pro - we need a skilled designer pro user to alter the label templates by adding in the product names, colours, adding in their logo etc.

There are 45 products that are in a template. It takes us between 30 and 45 minutes to complete the changes per job.
We have between 1 and 5 new own label jobs per week.

Would you be interested in this ongoing work and do you have the time for it?

Send me a private message if you are looking for extra work and want further details.

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Originally Posted by drslim2

Send me a private message if you are looking for extra work and want further details.

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Hello,
I have sent you a PM.
Please share some more details too.
I will be glad to assist you in this job.

Hi Naheed,
I have not received the private message.
Your account is set to No PM. I presume this is no private messages.

Anyway, this is not a secret so you can watch the videos here, showing what we need.

Here is a link to our dropbox folder with videos.
Please watch there as were made for a person on Fiverr who did not work out - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/sc0vn48fz...omZw5GiYa?dl=0

The work involved is pretty simple but we would like to offer customers more sophisticated label templates.
We also offer posters and other bespoke advertising materials.
This is our trade website with the own label service page here https://www.dropshipwebhosting.co.uk/own-label-services and the preset templates here - https://www.dropshipwebhosting.co.uk...mplate-gallery

We would like to expand on these templates over time but are very busy and hence wish to out source this work of creating customers labels.
Happy to pay $15.00 per hr (1 job takes 30 to 45 minutes).
Let me know your thoughts and we can have a voice chat to explain further if you are interested.

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Your account is set to No PM. I presume this is no private messages

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yes that is what it means - members have to active for a while before they get PM privilages

it's not my line of work - but hopefully the info you have posted will get interest from others

When applying, does work experience matter?

No but you need to be experienced in Xara

15 dollars, so about 12,55 €, the hour is a joke, right?
Every cleaning lady here gets at least 18,- € per hour.

A professional graphic designer who knows and works with Xara will not do that for the price.
As a graduated graphic designer and print professional, I have an hourly rate of at least 65,- € per hour calculated to get my costs paid. And I’m one of the cheap ones.

You can also read the whole thing on my website in the Terms and Conditions.
I wish you the best of luck finding someone who’s willing for charity to do that and can do it.

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15 dollars, so about 12,55 €, the hour is a joke, right?
Every cleaning lady here gets at least 18,- € per hour.

A professional graphic designer who knows and works with Xara will not do that for the price.
As a graduated graphic designer and print professional, I have an hourly rate of at least 65,- € per hour calculated to get my costs paid. And I’m one of the cheap ones.

You can also read the whole thing on my website in the Terms and Conditions.
I wish you the best of luck finding someone who’s willing for charity to do that and can do it.

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This job does not require a professional designer, as mentioned. Its actually a very mundane, unskilled job as you can see from the video.
Simply a matter of change the name, align it correctly, save as an image - finished.
Only takes 30 to 45 minutes to complete a job.
Thats why we want someone who knows how to use Xara, has a few spare hours a week and wants to make themselves between $200 and $350 per month in their spare time.

What you charge is irrelevant.
Dont know why you even bothered to comment if the fee / rate offends you???

Because I hate that companies that make good money are not willing to compensate good work fairly.

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Originally Posted by drslim2

What you charge is irrelevant.
Dont know why you even bothered to comment if the fee / rate offends you???

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now this is not an attitude that would encourage me to do business with you, either in this regard or if I ever needed your company's services

you will by and large get what you pay for; maybe you are happy to settle for someone who may drop you at a moments notice, which is what you will probably get for that sort of money

you said you wanted a skilled user, skill costs money, but that also engenders trust

my question is, if it is actually that simple, why don't you learn xara and do it yourself - oh you already have I see, fair enough.... but the question is still is it skilled? or is it simple?

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Because I hate that companies that make good money are not willing to compensate good work fairly.

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Not that I have to justify the remuneration to you or anyone else, but this is a very fair rate for the unskilled, easy work involved.
However, I find your hourly rate exorbitant and we would definitely not hire you as your final fee would be unjustifiable, even for a small creative job.

so you want a

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unskilled, easy work

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ok at least we now know thanks :)

I don't know anyone who would work for 15 an hour in this business. With overhead, taxes, insurance, phone. If you think 65.00 an hour is high then you've never hired skilled professionals before. 15 an hour is insulting to say the least.

I certainly wouldn't be giving up my free time for less than I earn at the office.

on the wall in our kitchen hangs a sign that says: the cook accepts tips not advice

in that spirit here's a tip - don't pay by the hour, pay a fixed fee per completed job: piece work - this how I operate; I don't tell people how long it takes me to do something, they don't ask / tell me their guestimate; it saves arguments; I don't have to explain why it took a couple of hours to draw boris johnson but three days to do mitch mcconnell, and then have grief sorting out what should be paid; all that is needed is a deadline, if I miss it I get nowt [ziltch]

I never charge by the hour. I charge by the value I bring to the table. With over 30 years of design experience my rates are high. I have been there done that low balling. I would say possibly some newcomer to xara with no experience who lives in his parents basement and needs beer money can get paid an entry fee. I also do not like how a client dictates how long it should take.

i used to work for a gentleman, who gave us work on the side occasionally, as the office was so busy. On these extra projects he said "You get $500 ... I don't care whether it takes 1 hr or 500 hrs. The project is worth $500 to me and that's what I'll pay you.

There is no happy compromise to this.

I PM'd early on and I declined, gracefully I hope.

My logic was simple - the rate was too low for the throughput involved.

$15/h for 1-5 jobs/w (median 3/w) would only realise $20/w and over a full year $1,000. Tax would reduce this to $600. (Simplistic but I might gain a tad on VAT, yet lose on Corporation Tax).
Dead time would involve email receipt and despatch. I would have to double the rate or my equity is only $300.
The company would always have a deadline so I would be tied Monday to Friday not knowing. Fallow time would be a 50% hike. Equity is now $200.

I would have to keep a licensed version of XDPX as I consider myself to be a professional in all my engagements. Annual cost $200. Equity is now zero.

None of this covers company insurance and other company outgoings.
Certainly, none of it reflects my Xara Desktop Application experience.
A minimum offer would have to be $50/job or $85/h plus a XDXP licence to be attractive.

My next thought was I could probably manage 4 labels and hour.
This would have to be delivery on a Tuesday for return by a Friday.
That said, why would I ever give away my graft at $3.75 each?

As I am probably one of the most experienced XDA specialists there is, modesty aside, I thought that I could probably automate the whole process.
An Intranet-based Xara Widget (XWR) might fit the bill. My bill might have been around $1,500, giving a ROI of 18 months.

I hope that Greg offers whoever takes on the work a better set of terms.
It truly boils down to what is this label's production worth to me, my company and my customer.

Acorn

P.S. I have put this up to allow other designers to reassess their worth and potential customers to realise the costs involved.
I tailor my rates to the circumstance. More often than not, a first-time happy customer is a repeat customer who is more than willing to pay an equitable rate.