What is a PNnV Document, please?

Hi,

Since I so called upgraded to XDP17 I seem to be getting all sorts of fidgety issues.

Until now I could just import .pdf documents into XPD (any version) and it would accept the .pdf document and I could modify it as I wished.

I now (sometimes, not always) get a message saying the document could not be opened as it was not a {PNnV document (not half a bracket appears in the error message).

What is a {PNnV document? In the past I have always had great success with .pdf's in XARA, I hope this is not going to change.

Kind regards, and all the best for the New Year.

Martin

I have no idea what a PNnV document is. I just tried importing a PDF both from the menu where the PDF option is almost at the bottom of the list (WHY?!) and by drag and drop and both work fine for me. In fact there have been some improvements to the PDF import filter. But the import menu is still a total dog's breakfast.

How did you try to import this document?

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Originally Posted by gwpriester

I just tried importing a PDF both from the menu where the PDF option is almost at the bottom of the list (WHY?!) ... But the import menu is still a total dog's breakfast.

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@Gary, try this: https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...-as-type-order to place your PDF Import at the top.

Acorn

you can try right click and run as administrator

PNnV sounds like a reference to the import filter libraries or an internal xara reference, but that is a guess

Many thanks for the swift rep[ly,

I initially tried to import a .pdf that I created from a different program and imported using file> import, I then tried simply dragging the created file onto the workspace. I have done both of these hundreds of times always with 100% success.

I experimented trying to open some files that I had previously opened some time ago - same error message "The document could not be opened as it was not a {PNnV document."

I then tried to import into XDP11 and got the same error (note, also with XPD16).

I subsequently tried making the .pdf's by several methods, edocprinter, MS print to pdf, etc. The reason I choose to create a .pdf is that I am using many mathematical expressions and by using a .pdf and importing it I get a transparent background behind the equation. Although I tried several .pdf's from several sources the current ones are obtained by using Libreoffice Maths (which I have many times before).

Regards

Martin

it could be as simple as the installation of version 17 not initialising the PDF libraries [which right click run as admin might fix] - if so it may have upset the process for the other versions as they may well use common libraries

@Martin, just tried LibreOffice Math v7.0 and all worked.

Acorn

Many thanks, everyone,

I have used LibreOffice math because I can (used to) produce transparent formulae (that can be adjusted within XARA). In desperation, I have reinstalled XPD17, but no change.

Possibly what is happening is more serious as I have a query in to Magix technical services on another error "Cannot write to backup folder C:\Users\MyName\AppDatas\Local\Xara\XtremePro\17\B ackups. Please correct this problem or choose another folder on the Backups tab of the Options dialog." All a bit catch-22 as when I try the path I can read and write correctly. Also, I find the backup in place despite the error telling me it is not!

Almost got to the stage of thinking a complete re-installation of Win10 (except I have so many production critical installations).

Kindest regards
Martin

PS I am not sure what the ".pdf " libraries are, I just open file>import or drag and drop into Xara. I tried opening a .pdf file by right clicking and selecting XARA with the same result.
M

Acorn - That worked fine. But how hard would it be for Xara to organize this list in a more orderly fashion placing the most common file formats first?!

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Originally Posted by gwpriester

Acorn - That worked fine. But how hard would it be for Xara to organize this list in a more orderly fashion placing the most common file formats first?!

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Gary, we could organise a Survey and offer up the ordered list to Xara...


...for those who are unaware:

The File Type box is a list that can be driven by a keypress.
To get quickly to the *.PDF, click in the box and type O; PDF is 5 entries above.
There are two B, D, E, G entries that jump top and bottom so a toggle might get you close to your requires filetype.

An alternative is to type in the Search box (top right).

Acorn

in this context PDF libraries are what the xara program references when it imports/exports PDF - look up tables if you like, to enable the information to be read/written correctly from one set of code to another; those used by xara will be oinstalled with the program; if something [eg a system security setting] stops full/partial access to these it will not work, running the xara program once as admin may fix that

Many thanks, handrawn and all the other helpful people on this forum,

I have managed to get the system to work OK.

Apologies if the following description is overlong, but it may be of interest how I got it working again, plus there is part of this I do not understand.

I had decided to use system restore and was prepared if necessary to reinstall the whole system.

I tried System Restore first and Win10 returned an error to say that various system files were not recoverable. I tried a number of system restore points all with the same result.

As a consequence, I decided to start an audit to make sure I had all the installation files and keys to reset the whole system and started working down the start list. I came across a program called Segurazo AV that I am sure I have never installed - after a lot of fiddling I managed to uninstall this program. The error with XPD and .pdf's was still present.

However, the next item on the list was "settings" which I opened and it returned a dialogue with warnings that there were damaged system files and offering to correct them. I have never seen this dialogue box before and it came up prior to the usual settings home page. The dialogue offered to correct all the damaged files so I allowed it to run. The whole system now appears to work properly. .pdfs open immediately in XPD all working and the whole computer has a sprightly feel about it.

Unfortunately, I did not record the dialogue box that came up before the settings home page and cannot reproduce it from the options in settings, does anyone know what it was - certainly it saved my computer.

Many thanks again to all those helpful people on Talkgraphics I can now catch up on my work backlog.

Martin

PS I am now pondering whether to try system restore and/or download the cumulative Win10 update, but thinking "if it ain't broke don't fix it" may be the sensible way forward (at least until the work backlog is cleared). Update Win10 to version 20H2?????
M

in summary then:

you had corrupted system files

that prevented you from restoring the system

windows will prompt for repair of damaged system files, once it becomes 'aware' that there is a problem, that is normal

the open question is, what caused the corruption - maybe the AV you uninstalled, you surely have another AV running and running two at once can cause issues [windows security [defender] excepted]

corrupted system files can indeed cause issues such as you had with PDF

if your win10 settings update says 20H2 is ready and waiting for you, you can update, should not be an issue, but run a system wide scan with your AV first just in case,

Thank you handrawn,

Kaspersky Total Security is my main AV software. I have a Malwarebytes available if I need it, but there are issues with KTS and MWB together.

I now see that Seguazo is listed in Wikipedia list of rogue software (plus several other posts). I think it slipped in when we were downloading some wallpapers for an animated zoom father christmas for a local school. All sorted now.

Thanks again
Martin