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So you got wordpress and easily you can find millions of designers that know how to work with it.
With xara where can I find these people? I mean lets say one day I drop dead or want to pass on my
xara clientele to someone to take over, who do I call? Ghost busters? ;))
Start training one of your friends now ;)
behzad, what are you offering for a Dime? A dozen of what? Websites to be maintained?
I could offer 5 days @ 8 hours a day for a rate of £25/h so a site would have to outlay £1,000/y.
I could handle 50 sites a year.
Any offers?
Acorn
Acorn, I will keep you in mind. I plan to retire soon and my xara clients are freaking out. I will push for a few more years. Btw, can they just use the html code without xara files to have a web designer use dreamweaver to update and maintain their site?
No, that would be a total disaster, behzad.Quote:
Originally Posted by behzad
Any site that has to be supported needs to be built against some design. Without any documentation, changes will be become unmanageable.
The best you can do is rebuild each website and document every single thing so that you, another XDA developer or at worst the Customer can make and document their own changes.
Staging and version control are paramount so you need to inculcate a regression strategy.
Pick one of your current sites and use the Xara Import from web address facility. Note all the functionality, Names, Layers and the like that are missing. Document those first.
In the end that's what you were paid for.
If not, up your charges and ensure you have a robust annual support contract.
Acorn
I thought I would offer up an approach to documenting a website to promote discussion:
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Acorn
I think the easiest way is to find a xara developer or tell them to purchase xara.
Neither of which will prepare them for how you constructed the website.Quote:
Originally Posted by behzad
Acorn
Another mechanism for On-page Comments is to create a style called 'Comment' and in the Website Code (head), add:AcornCode:<style>
.Comment { display: none;
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</style>
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I would like to support Acorn's point about documentation. Like many here, I started html coding sites. I was in the marketing and advertising business in the, well let's just say, not this century. Time and again I saw websites disintegrate when the management inevitably changed hands. I've seen websites held hostage by their creators. I cannot emphasize enough Acorn's point about documentation and I would go even further than just the technical and design documentation. I would include all administrative and financial (as in hosting site) documentation and that it always be available to the business owner of the site. IMHO
+1.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanFelix
Especially finance and configuration. Backup and recovery strategies. Time to Fix within an agreed service level agreement. Data Protection, IPR, RACI matrices, ...
A contract can start off as a Fire & Forget but a responsible Owner will realise that their business integrity is interwoven. It is essential to define the expected lifecycle of a website as early as possible.
Web development is not a licensed profession. Anyone, anyone, who has built a website and got paid is technically professional.
There are some teenagers I would have build a site over some so-called professionals who advertise.
Read the WEB DESIGN Posts in this site, like https://www.theukdomain.uk/creating-...due-diligence/.
Acorn
Maybe I’m out in left field, but isn’t that why Xara offers cloud based layout?
'Fraid you are as Xara Cloud(+) does not yet handle website design, though it started out to do just that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bwood
Acorn
HI AcornQuote:
Originally Posted by Acorn
Can I get you to help me to finish my website with this quote?
It would help me so much!!!
Dr. M
We can have a chat about it, sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by drbubu
Here is a Discord link, that runs for 12 hours and has 5 sessions available.
All you need do is Post a Message to TomPotBlenny (me) with your best email address and I will set up a comms path for us.
https://discord.gg/UWE5sq
Acorn
Could you send the link again, it is expired... ThankxQuote:
Originally Posted by Acorn
Hope you catch this one - https://discord.gg/TfFhD9.Quote:
Originally Posted by drbubu
Acorn
It worked - talk to you there
"forty-two"
Thanks for the confirmation. Switching back to Discord.Quote:
Originally Posted by drbubu
Acorn