Ryzen 9 3900X

Hi Peeps

Just thought I would see what the views are on upgrading a PC to Ryzen 9 3900X from an Intel I7 7700 for web designer premium.
Its not just for that program, but I would upgrade sooner if it would make everything faster and save my sanity.

I am finding that my PC is struggling to cope with some websites I am building, especially if I have two sites open, each with over 30 pages. When I copy across some content for instance, its bad even selecting some text, as it takes ages for the action window to open so I can copy etc. ( waiting ages maybe only 5 or so seconds, but constantly waiting for every action is taking a lot of time and more importantly driving me nuts)

I have i7-7700 4 core Processor with 64GB memory, an Nvidia RX 2070 and an NVME drive, so I was thinking I should be OK with speed and responsiveness, as the programs system requirements are quite light.

My CPU usage never goes above 18% and the memory is never over 22% so its not working hard as I see it, so thinking an upgrade would not make a lot of difference due to my CPU right now is not maxed out when in use.

Do you think the new Ryzen 9 3900X would make any difference if I upgraded now, rather than wait for the price to drop in about 6 months.

Do you think web designer would benefit much from upgrading to a 12 core CPU?

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I have no idea. Is your current computer slow with other software?

Having no idea whatsoever what a Ryzen 9 3900X is I just looked it up. It is primarily a gaming chip. I am not sure that is going to buy you anything. I could be wrong but I am fairly sure the software would have to be designed to take advantage of the chip's capabilities and I don't think Web Designer is.

First off, I would look at my Windows Virtual memory settings and allocate it a large value, possibly as much as 8192MB as you have 64GB Memory. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...a-cba1401ae4c9

I would also look over all the Windows Systems options and tune up your PC; lots of Internet advice out there; just do a bit at a time and work out how to roll back.

The Xara Desktop application hardly uses multi-core processing so upgrading for just Xara would be a waste of money.

Acorn,

if he has 64Gb of real memory, allocating virtual memory won't gain anything as you only need it (and it's slower) when real memory gets full and the O/S starts to swap things out.

To my mind, the system he has now is perfectly adequate. I've got an i7 8700 with 16Gb of memory and I haven't noticed anything slow (maybe that's what I am used to) and I have 2 or 3 20+ page web sites I'm playing with.

I'd look elsewhere rather than buy new hardware. Maybe some other program is interfering somewhere. Look at Task Manager and Performance Manager a bit.

Alan

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Acorn,

if he has 64Gb of real memory, allocating virtual memory won't gain anything as you only need it (and it's slower) when real memory gets full and the O/S starts to swap things out.

To my mind, the system he has now is perfectly adequate. I've got an i7 8700 with 16Gb of memory and I haven't noticed anything slow (maybe that's what I am used to) and I have 2 or 3 20+ page web sites I'm playing with.

I'd look elsewhere rather than buy new hardware. Maybe some other program is interfering somewhere. Look at Task Manager and Performance Manager a bit.

Alan

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I was having a similar thought, just wanted some input before trying something else. although the i7 8700 is a 6 core, two cores more than mine, wonder if that helps?

I am not bad a all things PC, build my own etc, but this has me stumped as my video and Audio program does a lot more (needs updating soon) and seems to handle it better, nothing in the task manager to suggest any obvious issues.

I think the page file is not an issue, as it is usually only for system dumps when you have over 8GB or so.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply, it is appreciated.

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Do you think web designer would benefit much from upgrading to a 12 core CPU?

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in a word, no

I just upgraded to ryzen 7 2700X 64GB memory and it has made no difference to Xara designer that I can see

as has been said Xara does not do multicore processing at this level; I chose the AMD because the better multicore capability is helpful for rendering animation/video - in fact like for like, the intel has the edge on pure single core speed and so if anything would be better for Xara I would think

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Originally Posted by handrawn

in a word, no

I just upgraded to ryzen 7 2700X 64GB memory and it has made no difference to Xara designer that I can see

as has been said Xara does not do multicore processing at this level; I chose the AMD because the better multicore capability is helpful for rendering animation/video - in fact like for like, the intel has the edge on pure single core speed and so if anything would be better for Xara I would think

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Thank you for the insight, I think your right about intel especially for some video encoding and games.

If the product comparison pages are up to date Web Designer Premium doesn't support multi core CPU at all.
https://www.xara.com/us/designer-pro/compare/
https://www.xara.com/us/web-designer/compare/

Edit: What I wanted to say is that it might be worth a try to download the Designer Pro Trial and check if that improves the performance enough to justify the upgrade price.

You can only use one thread in your multi-processor, so that's why your processor utilisation is low and why upgrading the processor would be a waste. Xara doesn't use processing power from video cards.

You have plenty of memory and an SSD so from a Xara point of view you have a fantastic system already.

I suspect your 30 page websites have a ton of high-resolution images that Xara is struggling to manipulate.

When you have long text streams, Xara becomes slow. I already noticed this in my book project, but none of Xara ever responded to this.

Since then, I have paid attention to designing only short text streams/sections.
Rather several text frames that are not linked than a long text stream. Xara almost crashes or takes forever to render the text.

Would be a possibility why Xara reacts so slowly.

Thank you for the ideas and feedback it was helpful.

Surprised that web designer premium is not utilising multi-core, I thought that would be a priority regarding it's development, unless its coming to an end in its currant format, maybe moving to a cloud based only branch in the near future.

I really like the software and I do hope they keep supporting it.

I think I will not upgrade my PC for a while and keep it as it is for the short term, until the new cpu's and motherboards drop in price, then its xmass all over again :)

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unless its coming to an end in its currant format, maybe moving to a cloud based only branch in the near future.

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as if..... >:)