repeating group

I have a repeating group for the header throughout a site. It has three elements. Although it shows as a perfect unit on the working page, it goes up to Preview with only two of the elements showing. We have checked layers etc to the best of our amateur ability and can't see what's stopping it. I haven't published yet, and I assume that if it's not showing on Preview it's not going to show when it comes to publishing. I'd be grateful for any advice: as always it's probably something very obvious. Thank you.

Are all three objects on the same layer? If not is the missing one on a pop-up layer?

Have you just used Preview or examined the grouping in a real browser?
Preview uses deprecated Internet Explorer.

Acorn

Are any of the objects 'Sticky'? I've had a surprised look on my face more than once when a sticky object makes another dissappear.

If you have objects in the header that are sticky, they must all be sticky or stick to top. You cannot mix and match.

Also, make sure the header on all pages (and you may have to do this page by page) are on top (Arrange > Bring to Front).

Thank you so far. I am looking at all the replies. Although not exactly what you have said, I think it is leading me onto the answer (I hope).

Thank you. My theory didn't work, so I am still puzzling. We're not using sticky

On another try - there are two websites, one a tenth of the size of the other, but both have exactly the same repeating header that I am talking about. The smaller one does the right thing - sends up the complete repeating header on preview, as well as being correct in its fully published state.

The larger website's repeating header - exactly the same - shows the missing element on the workspace but doesn't show it on Preview. I have tried all the other browsers. We have also gone through comparing the two settings and layers and everything else I can think of, and they seem exactly the same. I haven't yet sent the faulty site up for publishing, but the smaller site not only does the local publishing all right but is now up and running as a public website, all the time showing all the elements.
If nothing changes I suppose we have to simply copy the header from the smaller website to the large one.

Would you be able to attach the .web/.xar for us to look at?

Thank you very much. My husband meanwhile as a temporary quick fix simply copied the same header from the smaller website and replaced them on the larger website, the one that was missing one element. This has temporarily solved the problem but we'll have to address it again later.
I'm keen to get this all done asap, as it has had to hang on for a long time, and in fact I'm wondering how one finds people/firms locally that are expert in Xara who could be relied on. I maintained two websites with Dreamweaver for over ten years with no trouble and I thought going over to vector plotting would make the user interface simpler for whoever will take over the websites from me in the future. I don't think I've even got the real hang of it myself yet and am running out of patience a bit! I fear that I shall be back on the forum before long.

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Thank you very much. My husband meanwhile as a temporary quick fix simply copied the same header from the smaller website and replaced them on the larger website, the one that was missing one element. This has temporarily solved the problem but we'll have to address it again later.
I'm keen to get this all done asap, as it has had to hang on for a long time, and in fact I'm wondering how one finds people/firms locally that are expert in Xara who could be relied on. I maintained two websites with Dreamweaver for over ten years with no trouble and I thought going over to vector plotting would make the user interface simpler for whoever will take over the websites from me in the future. I don't think I've even got the real hang of it myself yet and am running out of patience a bit! I fear that I shall be back on the forum before long.

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Please do come back.

Next time, consider offering up a bit more as guessing rarely works.

As the repeating group was only three elements, I would have copied & pasted as you have done but compare like for like to see what was different.
Alternatively, I would have started from fresh.

Comparing Dreamweaver to a Xara desktop application is worse than chalk and cheese; Xara is effectively a layout tool with the ability to achieve lots under the hood without looking at code.

As with all such projects, the best advice is start small and goes into the toolset through practice.

Acorn

Thank you for previous helps, all of which have set me on the right path.

I knew I would be back. My main website is nearly ready to publish for good but I'm finding that when publishing it to local hosting as I work with it and want to see what still needs doing, the pages
(1) appear first of all in an unwanted font (Times NR) before changing slowly after a few seconds to the Verdana that it should be. Minor irritation.
(2) Major irritation - the site is taking an incredibly long time to load, which would be quite unworkable for public view. Is it to do with size? I fear so. My similar site one-tenth the size is up and running normally. Is there any way round this apart from hiving off sections of the site into two or three parts - I forget quite how to do it but I know that is a possibility I could take up - but I think that after months if not years now I've almost lost the will to do all that.
(3) Another major irritation - having carefully made sure there was no pasteboard background showing between header and page text, and proving by Preview that all was well, I find that when I publish to local hosting many of the pages do show the unwanted background. What is the secret? What is Preview for if it doesn't show in any browser how the page will look online?

I'm almost wishing I was back with Dreamweaver: I'm transferring to Xara to make things "easier" for my successor ......

(1) & (3) are probably due to your local browser cache not being purged as you have viewed the changig site so often,
Try browser > Ctrl+F5 and in Chrome go to Advanced Setting and clear browsing date form there.

On (2), cannot help unless we see the problem first hand.

Acorn

How large is the site ... in MB?

Can you post the URL?

I am truly grateful for effort and helps, all of which I take note of. I have had to be out of things until now. I am having one last try to get this sorted, as I am way behind in the changing to Xara and it is taking up far too much of my time for no progress.
In answer to previous messages -
There are two websites, one very small, which is up and running www.walsinghamanglicanmedieval.org.uk It was once part of the larger site, but I hived it off separately so that at least something was appearing online. Size after conversion to html is 53 Mb size of web file is 37 Mb
The second one is not uploaded because although it is almost ready to be so, I can't handle it because it is far too slow to use. There are many photographs, which presumably isn't helping. Size after conversion to html is 218 Mb size of web file is 119 Mb (I have had to cut it down anyway.)
I know that I could split it up in some way which would be seamless to the user, but I think that by now I am past taking on all that extra work, having done this for so long without a proper result.
I would simply be interested to know if this is going to be too large ever to go smoothly.

CK21, several members have requested you to attach your xar or web file. If it's to large to attach on TG post it to Google Drive or similar and give us the link.Without the xar web file we're all just guessing ;)

I'm sorry that I have had to fade away from time to time but I have had other responsibilities. I sent two or three messages which I didn't think had got through to the forum, but I can see a couple today, so I must be doing it right. I appreciate your willingness to help. I shall reply as soon as I can. Thank you.

I'm very grateful for all the help and advice from the forum. I am happy to send the web file and ask for your suggestions, but having thought about it a great deal in the last week I can see that whatever remedies are suggested, I will need a great deal more time to put them in place. I'm thinking particularly of the fact that the site is obviously too large for its situation and I shall have to do the splitting up that has been described to me. I've seen it in other websites, although I've not tried it, but I can see that it would mean a lot more work and time on my part, which I simply don't have - and after trying to get this done over the last two years, my motivation and energy levels are pretty low! Because most pages take over a minute to load I haven't even yet seen my latest version properly.

The website is nearly finished content-wise (although much cut about to try and get it to work here, and I would want to restore it to its proper size) and is very long overdue for going back up for use. So my options are two.

One is to go back to Dreamweaver - I only left it in order to make the handling of the website easier for my successor, but it did its job perfectly for me for eleven years - I have a copy of it still on local hosting and use it almost daily but only I can see it of course: I no longer have Dreamweaver installed (lost in a crash). But I have to rule this out because I'd need to catch up with the latest version etc and remind myself of it, and I haven't got that sort of time now.

Second is the professional option, which I shall have reluctantly to do. I've never dealt with a firm before, but that's a different problem, not for here.

As I said before, I'm extremely grateful for your responses, and that there is such a thing as a forum with people willing to help freely. (I hope that I've already made it clear that all I do connected with websites is entirely voluntary and non-commercial and I don't profit financially from anyone else's ideas!)
Now I shall start the process of finding the place to hand it to, something I've never had to do before, but it will be a weight off my mind. I ought to have stuck with Dreamweaver and let my successors have the worry!