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I just opened my Pro 15 and it expires in the first part of July. I had a message to upgrade and when I checked it out the upgrade price is $129.00 but I have to upgrade by tomorrow. Does anybody know what the price will be after the 14th? I am still debating if I will upgrade or not for the coming year.
Ray
You say 'upgrade' but you need to renew the 'update service' and click a different button. I made that error last time and this required a new installation and serial number. Fortunately, it got sorted. Whether there's a difference between the upgrade and renewal prices right now, I don't know.
My XDP comes up for renewal pretty soon as well and I'm not sure yet if I'll go along because the price is ridiculously high for what you get (based on last year's updates and upgrade to v. 15 -- which was mainly a nuisance). These renewals and upgrades seem to finance their new pet project, the Cloud app, rather than the serious development of the desktop apps.
What the window says is Upgrade service window expires in 28 days which is when my time is up on July 11th. When I click on the button it takes me to the upgrade page. I do not see anything for renewal. I am wondering if Magic changed the name of the renewal to upgrade?
Ray
You might be right, Ray. I've just been browsing Xara's website and couldn't find any link to the update service except through the upgrade button. What a royal mess it all has become!
Good luck and keep us informed!
Both of the above correspondents would seem to be of above average intelligence. They can write coherent sentences, with subjects and predicates, also verbs, nouns, conjunctions, all in the correct order and they make themselves understood with absolute clarity.
Why is it then, that they are made to appear absolute dunderheads because they cannot get their heads around the Magix/Xara Update-Upgrade conundrum?
Who might be at fault here, do you think?
For my money it is Magix/Xara, who are operating what appears to be a 3 Card Trick which is confusing to all who encounter it. Not just in this thread...there are plenty of other examples littered throughout Talk Graphics.
The company should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for using these shabby methods in order to get loyal customers to part with their cash for what amounts to very little at all.
{Edit} And while I'm on the subject, why has there been no response here from somebody in the company's employ who does know what the consumers' rights are in this matter and set the minds of there concerned people at rest? Chief Executive Officer perhaps?
I'm flattered. Thank you, sir! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by iamtheblues
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not being a paid up member of the xara lemmings trap since xdpx11 i feel slightly smug
yes i'm bitter and cynical
because i'd so much rather have remained a loyal xara supporter
One comfort, however, is that you're still a loyal TG-er. And that counts!
:salute:
I've not upgraded since XDP11, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Frank
And I've not seen any reason(s) to do so.
It looks like the the price stays at $129.00 US. It is now June 15, and Magic site now says I have until June 21 to get this price. I think they just keep moving the date until I reach my expiration date in order to make it look like I am getting a great deal and to act now before the date passes. What a poor marketing strategy.
Ray
Don't do it Ray! You just know that you will regret it more if you do than if you don't. What have Xara/Magix done to suggest that you might actually benefit from upgrading rather than just sticking. It's hardly a case of double or quits, now, is it? You have no evidence that things will Magixly improve by you coughing up far too much cash for jam tomorrow. It ain't gonna happen. They are betting on you (and everyone else) buying into this weird strategy of theirs...these are the good guys, right? :rolleyes:
Bob.
Bob,
You know the thing is with the last years improvements in the Pro version, I have not really had a need to use these features during this past year. Now if they had released them two years ago I could of used them a lot more but not right now. I do not need all of the Web templates because I do not do that much new Web design and that is where I see a lot of Xara content being published in.
I am lucky in the fact I can get my work to pay for the renewal if I go that route but is it really worth it for maybe a new feature I might use? Really hard to say, probably not though.
Ray
Ray, to be honest there is little value in buying into version 15; it is a canard.Quote:
Originally Posted by RKissane
You might need the templates or tables or Text Inside but unless you are a prolific web designer, a lot of these features can be "designed" by other means; hand-crafted always shows through anyhow.
Look elsewhere first. There is usually a free something that will beat a Xara kludge. If not, ask here as a kind TGer might just built it for you.
Do not, however, throw away your current Xara product. Its core offerings are jewels beyond compare.
In passing, is there a poor Magix web editor sitting in Germany looking at the calendar and incrementing the offer until date, week on week on week, Woche für Woche?
Acorn
P.S. Every day I try to be Xara positive and am knocked back, Tag für Tag. Come on Xara, for once do the right thing, however little.
I'm another one who won't be paying until something significant is included, would be interesting to know how many have renewed this year.
I don't! And without knowing what new features there will be, I won't pay any more either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christine Farrelly
Same here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Frank
It really has to be a real person as the Xara Web Designer Premium offer expired yesterday! Allegedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acorn
Xara Web Designer
- New purchase £34.99
- Upgrade £19.99
Xara Web Designer Premium
- New purchase £69.99
- Upgrade Regularly £194.96
- Upgrade to 15 June 2018 £39.99
Xara Designer Pro X
- New purchase £199
- Upgrade Regularly £199
- Upgrade to 21 June 2018 £89
Only a human could make up such a fairy tale.
@Xara, none of these prices reflect reality. It is not possible to deliver features for XDPX, half them for XWDP and half again for XWD. Is XPD truly one fifth as functional as XDPX?
Acorn
I see that web designer comes with some extras including 'Fastcut 2':
and if you beleive that... you deserve all you get....Quote:
With MAGIX Fastcut, videos automatically edit themselves. Simply select a template and your recordings will be edited into an exciting film with perfect music, special effects and transitions to match.
;))
I "upgraded" which was just a renew with no problem. You get an email with a coupon code for website usage. Then I got an email telling me I needed to renew my website. Now I have to go to the bother of signing in again, finding my coupon code and applying it. Why it couldn't be one transaction I don't know.
Horrible, just horrible! ;))
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by gracehjs
I would not want that at all. My renewal is in July, but I started the web hosting in January. I wait until renewal comes around before using the coupon. So to answer your question - renewal for DPX and renewal for web hosting are not necessarily the same date; and, the coupon is also good for a new web hosting site, so it is up to the user to decide what to do.
For the life of me I cannot understand why anyone would make such a business decision and put all ones eggs into the cloud based program when most people will not follow that route. If I can't own the program I don't want it. xdp11 is what I still use.
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Originally Posted by Big Frank
I have the same view as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daver1
If I can't own it, I don't want it.
And I haven't seen a reason to upgrade from XDP11.
Its a shame I like Xara products.. The have a good thing going then they blow it.. with weird changes.. Is Pro X a full home owned program? Or is that cloud based?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rik
XPDX is a Desktop application with on-line content provision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daver1
https://www.talkgraphics.com/showthr...-Service-Cover explains this all for the Web version but it applies to Designer Pro equally.
Acorn