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Why not have an update for Xara Pro 365? After all, many users report problems, bugs and offer different features. When buying software that I will update at least once a month ... as a last resort once a quarter .. I bought the program for a year but it has to be like that update will be very rare ... I guess I'll be looking for another program. Do you know anything about when will update?
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I have not heard anything. But one is hopeful an update will be coming soon.
Hi jangok, welcome to TG.
Xara Designer Pro X was released on the 4th July 2016. So three months have passed in that time. Xara's site states:
What constitutes 'regular' is open to debate. Xara Web Designer 365 was released on 13th April 2016 & the first update was released on 4th July 2016, a three month period. Hopefully Xara Designer Pro X should be due an update soon. In my opinion it's the quality of the updates not the quantity that matter. That said, as Xara have changed their policy from the annual update path to the new (and far from perfect) 'regular' update path then the onus is on them to deliver.Quote:
We will regularly publish new features and templates throughout the year
"Never buy a Pig in a Poke" as my old mum used to say.
Bob.
Xara Designer Pro X 12.2.0.45774 DL x64 Jul 1 2016
three months; a quarter of the year; and still 'jam to-morrow'
I didn't upgrade because of the promise of updates 'when available' but I sense there may be disappointment in some quarters if nothing arrives before the six month mark
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When looking at some of the Design Galleries, I have seen that there has been a note that some sections have been updated. So I think they are doing up dates on the templates and such, we just have not seen a core program update yet.
Ray
Hi Ray, I recently mentioned a bug with the ECWID widget and it is fixed. So I guess the Xara team does get informed and make some modifications very quickly. Let's not only criticize Team Xara, let's also give credit when credit is due.
Thanks Team Xara
Ciao
Roly
sure - Xara have always been good at fixing bugs along the way though, eg the issue with the web oriented 'stretch feature' that caused issue for drawing, ; and issues with the art brushes when they first came out
no complaints regarding the Xara team; just think the 365 licence model could be a big disappointment for some....
Hi Ray, I was re-reading my post #7 and want to apologize to you for the way I wrote the post. The statement " Let's not only criticize Team Xara, let's also give credit when credit is due." is not meant for you personally, but a general statement.
Thank you for your understanding.
Ciao
Roly
Roly,
I knew it was a general statement and not directed at me. No apology needed.
Ray
See Ben's comment HERE
This was one of my primary concerns with the upgrade to the 365 model, among others, like the fact that you don't get to keep the upgraded things if you re-install. I asked early on when the first update came out for the Web Designer version if the updates for those Web Designer changes would find their way into the Pro version and the answer was a "yes" without a particular timeline. I think it's pretty disappointing that the cheapest program of the lot has features not yet available in the flagship application; the same updates that are not noted on the product update page of Pro but ARE on the Web Designer page.
This is REALLY disappointing, especially since the price has gone up so significantly compared to release time or any previous upgrade version I can recall ($99 -> $129 -> $179, the last of which I don't think has happened in the past, though maybe I missed it because I typically upgrade and don't check pricing after that).
An overall downer in my opinion and keeping me even more unlikely to upgrade my two licenses.
I have not purchased it yet but keeping my eye on when and what the next update will include. People think complaining is bad but if no one expresses themselves then how can the program advance or the user base grow?
Your observation shows what many of us have discovered. Xara's focus is now on making websites. I know of 2 major issues where parts of Xara Pro were negatively affected - both by the actions of one person. Both times content on the user end was affected. This shows a weak and careless organizational structure. Having been working on computers for decades it has become clear to me that I have nothing I can do except move on. I, and many others, have spoken loud and clear and so has Xara.Quote:
Originally Posted by slavelle
I can relate to most things said in this thread.
And I am not a fan of the subscription license model in general – be it explicitly declared as such, or otherwise.
I am still running a fairly old version of Designer Pro for several reasons – the main reason being my personal preferences, needs, and my workflow.
And the feature set I actually use. Which is the vector tools, basic image editing, text, page design, and the prepress facilities. In other words, I can easily live without sophisticated image editing and web design within Xara Designer.
But that is just me, because I do those tasks in other applications. (I very much understand though, that others like to have everything in one package, and so well integrated as in Designer Pro)
I am more than pleased therefore that Xara gives me a choice. So, instead of upgrading my Designer Pro version, I will opt for the Page & Layout Designer as soon as the new version is released. Which in all likelihood will be a “Page & Layout Designer 365”. ;-) Oh well! I guess I can live with that. But, for now and into the foreseeable future I can’t live with out Xara Graphic software. Luckily for me, P&G Designer meets my exact subset of the Pro version. At less cost of the upgrade price to the Pro version.
The first update to Web Designer 365 was roughly 3 months after launch and the first update to Designer Pro X365 will be roughly 3 months after launch. Yes, that means it's imminent! But note that both Web Designer Premium and Designer Pro are on 12.2 because the first update to Web Designer Premium 365 was released at the same time as Designer Pro X365. In other words there are no features in the current Web Designer Premium that aren't also in the current Designer Pro.
Hi,
Ok I have the Cd/DVd version of Designer Pro (365) but am still running the download that is updated. So would I have to install
from the DVd/Cd to get the updates or would they be on the Cd/dvd should I decide to install at a later date. I was under the impression
that you only need the DVD/CD install should you have as a backup if you have a computer problem.
Jim
Kate - then you should update the Xara Designer Pro page with the following items that are listed as "new features" on the Web Design 365 page:
NEW - JULY 2016
Improved List Editing
You can now select just the bullets/numbers in bulleted/numbered lists, so you can then adjust the color, size or font independently of the list text
Two separate numbered lists can now be linked (so for example you could have a graphic in the middle)
NEW - JULY 2016
Photo Filter Pre-Sets
A wonderfully quick and easy way to apply popular effects to your photos.
You’ll find more than 25 ready-made effects in the Content Catalog (image resources > photo filter pre-sets). Simply select your photo and hit Import! What’s more you can continue to edit the effects using the Enhance tool or Brightness Levels dialog, and if you replace the photo the effects are retained. See some examples.
NEW - JULY 2016
Stock Photos & Illustration
New in the Online Content Catalog: In partnership with Pixabay we've added fully integrated access to a free library of over 500,000 quality royalty-free stock photos and over 59,000 vector illustrations. All available under the CC0 license.
Minor SVG import improvements (NEW - JULY 2016)
Not helping convince the doubtful.
FWIW: The main site has been updated with the new November 2016 updates (right after I posted this - I'm sure there's no connection between the two ;))
Anyway - finally caved and bought the new version. I hope to be able to utilize the new features both creatively and practically!