Still have a long ways to go on this one...
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Still have a long ways to go on this one...
It's looking nice already!
looks good, so, what's keeping you :)
Thanks Boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boy
Lack of imagination and attention to detail, slow of mind, work arounds, attention deficit and lack of coordination; but other than that, nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by handrawn
You sound 100% to me. Looking forward to it.
Like the Nash Rambler. Drive In restaurant. Cool.
Very nifty Ron, i love it. Looking forward to seeing it colored. You have been busy.
Thanks Gary, Larry and Gray! (sounds kind of poetic)
I hope it doesn't end up diappointing.
I'm fairly certain It will not.
Ron. Your work Disappointing? I think not. I like your wire frame but I too look forward to seeing the colored in image. Based on all your other work, I thing it will be a smashing success.
Paul
Thanks Paul. I'm having trouble with the color scheme of the burger building itself. I want it to be representative of the period, but I don't want an exact copy of a specific business.
I know GP, who has done much for me in the past, has very kindly encouraged me to go to school, but it isn't possible for me to do for a number of reasons I won't go into.
I still have things I want to add to the drawing, but one step at a time. After that, I'll post the color drawing and look forward to critiques to help me learn more and give me ideas and a chance to grow.
Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Psaumure
Thanks teach! I intend to start on the waitress, but keep spotting things I don't like. Plus I try to anticipate possible critiques from all you great supporters and making more adjustments. This is a great learning experience and I really appreciate the observations and critiques I'm getting!
I know it's going to be a masterpiece, Ron. That's what's great about TG, everyone helps to make it a better illustration.
Well, like you said in the other post, "You always see stuff that you missed or needs to be fixed, or that you left out AFTER you post it. sheeeesh!Quote:
Originally Posted by gray
Anyway, I'm going to start on the waitress now. This should be interesting!
OMTS ! (Oh my Thick Shake!)
Ron, if you posted the wireframe in a real gallery, it'd win a prize!
In awe,
Gary
Gary my buddy!
awesome retro!!!!! anyway, can't wait for the full renders... well done so far!
Thanks Jay.
Well, the work is complete in as all the elements I wanted in it are there. However, there is a lot of drawing aspects that, for me, are less than quality work. It's not that I haven't put the time in, it's that I just can't seem to figure out how to do it, i.e. drawing people. I hate drawing people because I can't seem to get the nuances down that make a person look like a person and not a crappy drawing of a person.
Anyway, I will revisit this later because there's always something I didn't see that needs correcting or cleaning up.
Oh, and the food graphics are mine.
Wow Ron. You never cease to amaze me. What a great image. I love the lighting, colors and the entire layout. I'm not sure what your talking about the people, they look great and work well with the image. I love the reflections in the windows. You should print this out and submit it as artwork to some of your loco dines. wouldn't that be great going out to eat and seeing your artwork on the wall? Great job my friend.
Your number one fan,
Paul
Ron, I think it looks pretty darn good.
I hear what you are saying about people, they are difficult. Perhaps the only advice I can give you is find a good source in the pose you want and use that as a guide, maybe your wife or yourself. The Disney artists used source for inspiration, and if need be would look in a mirror to see how the face looked in a certain expression, or the shape of the mouth when making a sound. Some of the really great figure artists probably have done it from childhood and developed a knack for it.
Those pinup artists from the 40's and 50's were very gifted in my opinion. But, could they do what you do, I think not.
As for myself, normally when I did people they were very stylized and that was fine for what I did at the time. Sometimes I did some that looked real but not normally.
Is Paul is your number 1 fan then I must be your number 2 fan.
Wizard, after me, your first! Since we are Geminis, you might be third or fourth. It's all in how you do the math.
Well I have to say that's just Awesome! I just love the bright colours and I can almost hear the 50's Rock roll!
I get it Paul, you might be 1 & 2 and that leaves me 3 & 4Quote:
Originally Posted by Psaumure
Ron, that came out just beautiful, and you used all the right cars.
Absolutely super, Ron. You've captured the Rock 'n Roll feel of the period. It must have been tough work getting the reflections in the curved windows to look so convincing.
One slight caveat, the early evening sky doesn't seem to work well with the bright chrome reflections, but I suppose it could be the diner's outdoor lighting.
You're a class act, Ron.
Bob.
Wow! Ron, that's pretty impressive. I like it a lot. A few suggestions: add some smaller and darker shadows underneath the tires so that that cars don't seem to 'hover'. There are multiple light sources so the waitress and the cars would cast multiple, somewhat diffuse and overlapping shadows. I love the composition but perhaps the color scheme could use some tinkering to create a more balanced viewing experience. I am not really sure how to go about that because I also like all these colors.
Thanks Paul, Larry, Frances, Bob and Boy. I certainly will revisit this drawing in time and take seriously the critiques. I think I need to clear my head a little before going back to it.
You all are great for taking the time to help and encourage me!
First, Ron, bravo, man.
It's a success, and I really wish you and Paul would liten to your audience instead of your inner demons that are saying, "Not good enough." put Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon on your iPod (available at Amazon), turn the volume up to 11, and it will be easy to drown out unwanted reservations.
Second, if you're having problems with drawing human anatomy (and who doesn't?), that's what Poser was originally designer for, although the Goth and porn industries have laid claim to the program in recent years. If you can find a used license, it's worth your while, because it comes with dozens of preset poses you only need to double-click to apply to the figures. Without even Googling much, I found Poser 10 new for $69; I'm sure you can beat that.
The other thing about anatomy that struck me in your drawing, is that the height versus head and limb proportions are not "ideal" as classically portrayed. You're going for a dreamy, stylized look, right? For men, the average head to body ratio is 7 1/2 heads for the body height.
—Ideal: 8 heads
—Fashion model 8 1/2 heads
—Superhero 9 heads
...with an average shoulder width of 2 1/2 heads or so.
Female body proportions have become ridiculous in recent years with comic book artists going way over the top. But, a heroically proportioned skating waitress (attendant!) might be desired for your drawing and I'd recommend an 8 head tall figure, with shoulders out to only 2 heads. If you Google heroic body proportions + female, you'll find tons of resources, pictures, a lot of line drawings, and so on.
This is not to take away from your wonderful work, Ron. You made a statement, and this post is only meant to help, my good man.
My Best,
Gary
(who sucks at anatomy)
P.S. How to draw a female superhero is a useful tutorial-based website.
MUCH appreciated, Gary!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gare
I would say that came out really well, Ron. Don't beat yourself up over the figures. My figures usually look like stick men.:)
Thanks Graham.:)
I really do think your figures look fine.
Thanks Larry.
I really do need to add figure drawing to my long list of things to work on. But, if everything was easy there wouldn't be any challenges; and that would be boring.
I agree Ron. As we all know I like the challenges that's what keeps us growing (at least me).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Duke