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Well, I looked and searched, but I couldn't find my original posting of the apothecary, so I'm posting it here.
It had been finished, but...
The wife wanted a different size than originally requested, so I had to go back and add to this drawing so that it would fit the next size up for the printer has for canvas prints. It involved adding another building (haberdashery), a light post and a lady. I think its done, but I'm going to wait and see if the wife is going to want any more changes... :(
You are a talented guy.
I like it very much Ron. What are those shapes seen in the two 2nd story windows on the left? At the moment they make no sence to me.
This is turning into a really lovely series Ron.
Your talent never ceases to amaze me Ron, a great image as always.
Stygg
Great composition again and I really like your style.
Hi Larry those are reflections in the window and I think they work. I like the drawing a great vector image. Ron how good are you in PhotoShop, now this is a proper question, if your're OK with it why not take it in and get everything a bit dirty.
Great drawing as usual. Windows are fine in my opinion and everyone is going to look most of the time at the car and street level anyway.
I think it would work even better as a greyscale image, as it would reflect that time period more. Vector graphics are usually too clean, so some added noise could also work for this image to make it look aged.
If that's what they are, in my humble opinion, they are to opaque.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albacore
What I would have done is show something that is clearly behind them so they come off as surface reflections. Wouldn't have to be much, just something to give the impression that they are on the surface of the glass
I have spent a long time comming up with a style to give glass a surface and depth, wasn't something I was taught but something that gragualy evolved. Admittaddly it was a a style.
After I left the company there was a guy that wase excellent doing ccomputer architectural renderings and one of the things he latched onto was how I did glass.
Later if I can find it I might post a painting of a door and it's reflections by my favorite artist Richard Schmid, well maybe a link because i'm sure it is coppyrited.
Peter, that's a very good idea. I don't have Photo Shop, but I can look at other avenues to give it a try. Of course, the wife has the final say on it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wizard509
Larry, that would be GREAT! Thanks SOOO much! Yes, maybe they're a bit harsh and should be softened?
Thank you Gary, Paul, Peter, theinonen, Boy and Stygg for looking and for your observations and kind remarks.
How bout the windows now?
Better Ron. You might think about positioning them so they cut what's behind them. So for instance if the leftmost window is a reflection with a sofa or something behind it then the sofa could be dark like you shoe but the reflection being lighter will also lighten the part behind it, not all of it just the part that the reflection is over.. That way it would bring the reflection to the front and maybe appear on the surface.Another thing I noticed is the mullions and muntons would have a slight shadow which would help set them apart. All in all I like it very much, just trying to be helpful.
Thanks Larry. There actually isn't anything visible behind the windows with the exception of Sherlock. The faded images in the windows are reflections from the other side of the street which would not be very discernible. I don't know what mullions and muntons are.:-OQuote:
Originally Posted by wizard509
Mellions are the major window framing. Muntons is the smaller framing or divisions.
Awww, thanks for explaining Larry.
I've applied a separate layer with a sepia type color and stained glass transparency. The wife ok'd it.
Absolutely lovely Ron. There is a much less expensive way than photoshop to add a bit of grunge to your image, have a look at Onone Perfect Effects. There is a free version you can download and try it has a wonderful grunge filter that can blend your textures using all the same blending modes as photoshop. There is a paid for version around 60.00 US and a full photosuite for around 80.00 US but the free one may be enough just to add texture to your image.
Rear wheel of the vehicle looks like it is floating way above the street...other than that, looks great, Ron.
Thanks so much Frances! I'll look into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelize
Mike: LOL! Yea, it does. I'll have to bring it back down to earth.
BTW: What is this grunge we're talking about? What's it supposed to do?
Here's the drawing with the shadow suggested by Larry and the rear wheel shadowing fixed.
Frances, is that the "Perfect Effects 9 Free" you were referring to?
yes Perfect effects 9 from OnOne Software.
Thanks
I like this style you do, Ron.
Means a lot coming from you Gray.
I love it, Ron. It is so calming and yet so active. The combination for me, whether perceived or real, is fascinating.
—Gary
Thanks so much Gare!
Nice drawing Ron ;), its just me or it looks like the car is reflecting a blue Lamborghini?
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Thanks Jose. Awww, good one!;))
Actually, it is one of my car drawings I haven't posted, a 1928 Alvis 12-50.
The car parked in front of the apothecary is a 1925 Austin Doctor's Coupe. I guess, from what I can determine so far, is that was actually the model's name.
Larry provided some insight that I hadn't thought of, so here it is. The tudor windows above the apothecary wouldn't all be reflecting the same, most probably. The funny thing is, the evening after Larry had made the suggestion I was watching a movie with the wife, and low and behold, one scene showed a cottage with tudor windows and they didn't reflect the light equally. Thanks Larry for the heads up.
I was wondering though about the other pane windows (on the right upper building and either or both lower building pane windows). Would they have the same effect; does anyone know?
I'm searching on the internet for examples, but haven't found any yet. I THINK! that it would have depended on whether the glass was held by lead or by wood, but I'm not sure.
Interesting what you have done Ron. IMHO they seem a bit bright and detract from the main focus of the rendering, in fact they are the main focus now.
wood or metal framing may have some influence on the reflection,but I think it is modstly the glass itself. I could be wrong though.
I worked up this image for you as to how I think it would be.
Then I found some photos from various sites showing the distortion of reflections very well. OK the last one doesn't it's just an old building.
Nos 2 and 3 are reflective glass. the old building is clear glass.
I could not find anything about what type of framing causes more distortion.
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Ron, I like your image.
It think it should be "Gentlemen's" or "Gentleman's". Or the sign-writer did it on a Friday afternoon!
Paul
Paul-
"It think it should be "Gentlemen's" or "Gentleman's". Or the sign-writer did it on a Friday afternoon!". You're right on both counts.:o
Larry-
Thanks for all your trouble and patience. I know I'm a little thick (actually, being modest there. I'm a lot thick), so please be patient with me. I'm working now on making changes. Thanks 'teach'!
Ron you are rather very humble admitting that still learning and showing your doubts with the drawing details, when you could teach most of us on the forum
Yes, I would be really happy to be making artwork like this - as it was in post #1.
My only advice now is not to overthink things too much. In post #1 it's 100% Ron. As you move towards more realistic there's a danger of diluting the style.
Good job Ron.
csehz and Paul- You're both really kind. You make me feel good.