The image below should explain it all.
http://i.imgur.com/sgCIbNe.jpg
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The image below should explain it all.
http://i.imgur.com/sgCIbNe.jpg
Are your grid and nudge settings matching in the program Options?
Do you mean: Page Options > Units > Default Units > Page: Millimeters ?
The grid size, nudge size and default Units have all been set to millimeter.
It's something I wanted to report about ages ago.
what about if you do your nudging with the outline* set to none or view mode set to1
*or border or stroke i forgot what its called
Big Frank, stroke or not, or the proportional line width toggle on/off (which snaps to the grid with outline thickness) - makes no difference.
i did a clean install of xdpx9x64 and followed your instruction to the letter
except i did not give my trianglea stroke
i did not get your results
i got exactly aligned on the grid
i will try to record this on camtasia
but being on a melted cheese plane may make this hit n miss lol
completely forgot that exists!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostaw
You need to zoom in 25600% to see the change. Please see the Xara file attached. Open it up, select the square and move it 8xright, 8xdown using the cursor keys. Zoom in to the top left corner and you see the square is off grid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Frank
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That isn't your grid point, what you are seeing is the object selection bound handle (blob). A grid point will not show that large at such high magnification.
You can colour the rectangle then add an 0.25pt line and see the grid point is on the line centre point. Seems to be dead on grid in my Designer Pro X9
i've followed your instructions to the letter but i swear im not getting that result
to make any possible diffrence more visible i changed the square colour to pale green
i started at x 64 y 1168 so the top left was on a blue +
ive nudges 8 right and 8 down and that put my top left corner squarely on x 80 y 1102 as in your screenshot abve
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its even more evident theres no error when i deselect the square
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Are you sure you turned the grid on ('Show Grid' or keyboard shortcut ".")? You can also turn the view quality to 0 and then check again. The Xara file I uploaded didn't use an outline color, just a solid fill. I checked with Xara Xara Prov8 on another machine and I can confirm this behaviour since at least version 6 on at least 3 different machines.Quote:
Originally Posted by sledger
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Please try the xara file attached:
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You can make this more evident: Hold shift and press the cursor keys: 20xleft, 20xdown.
Select the Square and move it slightly, you should see it will snap back to the top left corner. It wouldn't snap if it was aligned already.
really sorry harry but i'm just not getting that error on my pc
Yes..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostaw
Here's your square again, unselected and coloured yellow so you can see the grid point.
OK, did you try nudging holding shift and cursor keys: 20xleft, 20xdown? Turn Snap to grid back on and then move the object slighty and -zap- it will snap (might be a very subtly movement, but it will move!).
yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostaw
you are spot on my old cheese
it happened to me too =D>
and on that note i'm off to bed
but i agree you have found a bug
you have to look bloomin hard to spot it
but i agree with you
OK, yes I can repeat this too with the 20x20 nudging steps.
Mods: This thread might be best moved to the Dear Xara.. forum where devs check more frequently.
Thanks guys! ;) I wasn't looking forward of taking several screenshots on various different machines of previous and latest versions of Xara *phew*.
I hope this issue isn't related to the line-to-shape problem reported in 2006, as they both seem to be some kind of internal rounding issues(?).
http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthre...pe-bug-problem
good on you
well spotted
Contacted Xara about this and no reply either. Oh well.
Hi Nostaw,
Sorry for the lack of response until now.
This issue is caused by a maths accuracy problem: The program stores the nudge size in millipoints but 2mm is not a whole number of millipoints - there's a fractional part which gets lost when the nudge size is stored. Then when you perform multiple nudges this tiny lost fractional part gets multiplied up too and becomes visible in the on-screen position of the object. (The grid positions are stored and computed using higher precision values and so they are in the correct place.)
Phil
ok, thanks phil
so will there be a fix in the next update?
So would it be better to work with high numbers. E.g. 200mm instead of 2?