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I am looking for a computer graphics artist to create a logo for the Safe Harbour Pig Refuge.
We have toyed with the idea of a pig floating on a raft or in a life ring in a harbor with a light house in the background.
Is this the place to find someone interested in helping us create our logo? I love Xara X and use it for basic graphics, but my art skills are best classified as "neanderthal".
Since we are a non-profit organization and feeding 150 pigs per day, we don't have much money to spend on things that the pigs can't eat. But if you create a logo for us we can invite you to visit the refuge and hug a pig! :-)
Thanks for your consideration of this request!
Scott
Webmaster
Safe Harbour Pig Refuge
www.safeharbour.org
E-mail: webmaster@safeharbour.org
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I am looking for a computer graphics artist to create a logo for the Safe Harbour Pig Refuge.
We have toyed with the idea of a pig floating on a raft or in a life ring in a harbor with a light house in the background.
Is this the place to find someone interested in helping us create our logo? I love Xara X and use it for basic graphics, but my art skills are best classified as "neanderthal".
Since we are a non-profit organization and feeding 150 pigs per day, we don't have much money to spend on things that the pigs can't eat. But if you create a logo for us we can invite you to visit the refuge and hug a pig! :-)
Thanks for your consideration of this request!
Scott
Webmaster
Safe Harbour Pig Refuge
www.safeharbour.org
E-mail: webmaster@safeharbour.org
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Maybe you could pay us in bacon and baby back ribs? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]
Nah, I guess that would be defeating your charter, huh?
What form do you need the logo in, or I guess, what uses do you need it for? Web? Paper? Ads? Etc.
Gary
Gary Priester
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Whipped this up quickly in CorelDRAW using that awesome PowerClip feature. I am a designer, not an artiste, so this is my humble offering...
http://www.thefontman.com/pig_harbour.jpg
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The Fontman
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We try to use Xara in this conference FM :-)
Seems we were both pursuing the same idea, only you had a head start.
Gary
Gary Priester
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I realize what forum this is. He asked for a logo, and did not mention that it was program-specific, i.e., Xara, did he? Maybe I missed something...
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The Fontman
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http://www.enrealty.com
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Both of these logo ideas are wonderful!
I would prefer to have the logo in Xara X so I can make small changes to it as needed.
We would want to be able to use this for Web and print. Once we settle on a logo, it would be nice to get the XAR file so I can output it as needed.
I will show both of these logo ideas to Safe Harbour's founder to get her opinion.
Thanks for the fabulous response!
Scott
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Did not realize you needed a Xara-specific file. In that regard, I withdraw my submission as I made it with that "other" program.
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The Fontman
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http://www.enrealty.com
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Absolutely fabulously cute pig! (you have drawn). [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
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Thanks Roman.
I used Xara's killer Bevel Tool for most of it. Maybe some day the other application will have a bevel capability that is not one dog's breakfast of facets. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]
Scott
If your boss likes my design, I can improve upon the pig and donate the design to a worthy cause.
Gary
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One color - cheap to print, so you don't have to sell one of your piglets... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Gary - next months tutorial looks to be a winner!
Risto
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I love all the offerings thus far, very nice work all of you. I am currently trying my hand at it but not having a whole lot of success at it!!
But Gary may I, a 15 year old kid with a program called Xara, make a suggestion about a skilled artistic guys logo who's talent surpasses most? Ok then [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] : I think the "Safe Harbor Pig Rescue" would look better if "Safe Harbor" was on top right-side-up and "Pig Rescue" was on the bottom right-side-up. Hope this helps
Steve Newport
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I tell ya, I get no respect!
(Good point Steve).
Risto -- trying to under bid me? ;-)
Gary
Gary Priester
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Risto,
Why is he crying if he's safe? Or isn't that a tear drop?
Mickie
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If I recall, Mr. Priester (after my many years of using that other program) you were an avid user of that product.
Who peed in your Corn Flakes that you are so anti-Corel?
Upgrades were costing you too much?
Just curious, Gary! An honest reply would be appreciated, even in "this" forum...
For Steve Newport, way to go! I wish we had computers when I was 15 years old, but that would have been back in 1965...what a bummer...no 'puters in them days. Oh well, have fun!
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The Fontman
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http://www.enrealty.com
[This message was edited by The Fontman on August 20, 2001 at 18:01.]
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OK, Scott... any facial expression you want is included... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Yes, Gary... I love em' pig hugs!
Risto
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... and I also come in a funky color mix... like this... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Risto
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Alright, here's my contribution. It's not really a logo, I know, but this is how it turned out so if nothing else, maybe a free poster design! I may make a printer friendlier version of a more "logoish" design with the same idea. Anyway, hope it looks good at least, hope this helps!
Steve Newport
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I wanna go and live there too! I bet that my flatulence will go unnoticed... and an umbrella in the drink is always nice.
Great image, Steve!
Risto
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You put this old man and the older fart (moderator) on the back burner. Excellent stuff, dude!
Again, awesome!
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The Fontman
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http://www.enrealty.com
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OMG, that is hilarious Risto!! ahhh man, that's awsome! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] I like your style!
Steve Newport
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Wow, some quick replies here, isn't that amazing!? Thanks for the comments, I'm glad you like them, like I said, I'll be workin to make it a little more what he asked for, but I'm just waiting to here from Scott.
Fontman: Gary wasn't trying to be mean or anything, it's just in the past people that posted things about different programs in the wrong forums usually resulted in some not so friendly threads. It's just an unspoken rule around here I guess to keep things a little more calm! But I garuntee he didn't mean anything bad by it!
Glad you like the my pic, and good job on yours even though it was made in that other program! And if you havn't tried XaraX I would REALLY recommend you tryin it, you'd love it if you like the other program remotely! Thanks again all
Steve Newport
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and you guys work so fast! Steve, the chest hair cracks me up [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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That's it,.. i'm gettin' in the mud.
I remember a post a long time ago in either this forum or the Corel forum where you announced, for some reason that you were "outta here, this is the last you'll hear from me". So you picked up your marbles and went home.
OK,.. so you pop in a week or two later to make another anouncement that you started another forum for Corel users... which BOMBED BIGTIME ... am I right?
Hmm... so time passes and with no one to really to talk to, the interloper drops in, hopefully, "inconspicously" from time to time putting in his 2 cents here and there, thinking deep down that no one could possibly remember how much of an arse you were in the past.
Then you trip a wire AGAIN ... and it all starts over.
Nobody's here to stick it to you... man! If you can't take a joke, read. If you can, then join in here. Just remember to pack the chip away first.
That's ALL i'm gonna say about this. And please, think hard about what I wrote, because if you reply with more crap like the stuff you so freely throw around here, you'll only validate my rant.
W
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I was going to try something, but I don't have the time to try to match Steve's pig.
Great pig Steve.
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I've been struggling for months trying to get something one step up from mediocre...and you guys create amazing images in a matter of hours!
I appreciate all of the ideas and will show them to Angharad Rees, the founder of Safe Harbour Pig Refuge. (She's the one holding the baby skunk on the About us page - http://www.safeharbour.org/about.cfm)
I will get Angharad's opinions and get back to you.
Thanks again...the pigs will be smiling when we tell them!
Scott
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I couldn't resist.
Here is my logo. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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but it doesn't arouse any sympathy for pigs, which is probably what the haven would like to do.
Anybody seeing that image would probably be more inclined to go buy a family pack of side ribs than make a contribution to the Haven [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]
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Fontman, and others.
I review graphics software for Communication Arts Magazine. I have written reviews of CorelDRAW (9 and 10), Illustrator (9), FreeHand (9-10) among others.
I still write Corel articles for Designer.com.
But over the past four or five years, Xara has grown into a world class product that is as good or better than any other vector software product out there, including CorelDRAW.
This sums up part of the problem with DRAW, which IMHO has gotten too big, too unpredictable, and too slow. A reader from Designer.com in Maylasia wrote and asked a basic question, the answer to which was to use Corel's Collect for Service Bureau function. So with a very simple file, I used this command, only to have DRAW 10 crash every time I tried to use this feature.
I could list dozens of other problems like this one. And I have in my reviews.
I had a conference call with the Corel product design team in which I advised them to go back to version 5.0. For me, that was the last time DRAW was really lean and mean and fun to work with.
I still like DRAW, better than Illustrator and FreeHand, and in many respects, it is still a very fine application, but I think trying to be all things to all people, has not worked.
Xara does not try to be a desktop publishing application or a photo editing application, or a web page design application. The download size is under 9 MB. But doing the functions and effects that it and DRAW have in common are so much easier, faster, and more effective in Xara.
In conclusion, go to the Featured Artist Gallery in the XaraXone, and you will see examples of art and illustration that are as good as, or better, than the best in the Corel Design Contest.
DRAW is good. Xara is the best.
Gary
Gary Priester
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Steve -- Not bad for a rug rat.
Bruce -- I think your's is the best of the lot!
Gary
Gary Priester
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Risto, Porky would be proud.
Hell Steve, it could be a Club Med advertisement! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] Very C o o o o o 1. My first reaction was to laugh.
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One feature which CDraw absolutely can NOT DO that Xara can and is CRITICAL to producing many of the special effects we've seen in this and the Xara Gallery forum ...
Its the ability to blend transparencies.
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Bruce - I like it... but could you have some of the light from the lighthouse hitting the water?
Mickie
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Well, I'll try the sad route! Does this work? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Steve Newport
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Steve, you're missing the tear in his eye.
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Steve your pig looks like he was running the race of his life and just made it under the finish line. I think you need a farmer chasing him in the background. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Mickie
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That's more like it, but now it's kind of ambiguous what he's wretched about. It looks like he's wretched about being in the refuge. There must be some way to evoke sympathy without that ambiguity...
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... a "HAPPY" pig to me --- if he just had the slightest grin and some smoke rising from his back end... [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Steve - I can't believe you are "51" -- you are so care-free, spontenous and so tuned-in to the world that it seems you are only "15". [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
John - I don't know "Porky" but he/she sounds tasty to meeeee! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Risto
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Bruce -- I think your's is the best of the lot!
Gary
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Thank you Gary, I learned from your great logo tutorials.
http://www.unleash.com/gary/
Mickie
I could have worked on the light hitting the water but I was trying to keep the image as simple as possible. A logo should be simple. Yet something that people will remember.
Most good logos are simple shapes and have only a few colors. I think that Steve's illustrations are nice. But they don't work as a logo. Steve it should be somthing simpler like you use for your own personal logo. The fancy initials.
But I do love your pigs.
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Not a logo, I don't have the talent you guys have, or the imagination, but a motto/tag line sprang into my head whilst reading the thread:
Safe Harbour: the piggy haven with more grunt
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Cheers,
Phil
Trust the computer industry to shorten 'Year 2000' to 'Y2K'. It was this sort of thinking that caused the problem in the first place.