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hi,
i just tried to use the exo font family from http://www.google.com/webfonts/ in latest xara mx and it sadly doesn`t work.
the fontmenu shows all style names but all in the same weight. the same goes for the font dosis also available there.
in illustrator or indesign the fonts work correctly with all styles showing in the right weight.
help.
thx FLy
This is an area what could use some help. I purchased a lovely script font that has some incredible glyphs, but they are totally inaccessible in Windows Character Map and in Xara.
The glyphs can be seen and used in Illustrator and InDesign. One can hope that Xara will add this ability soon.
This thread should probably be in the Web Design Forum but the problem exists just as much if not more for print.
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Originally Posted by FLySOLO
The Problem
This is an old issue having dealing with "font style linking" (see here)This comes down to a limitation in the windows OS font handler and the way it deals with font families. Illustrator, Indesign, and Photoshop etc by pass the windows handler and thus don't have this problem. Other programs however that use widows to handle the files are limited to 4 styles, usually regular / italic / bold / bold italic.
The Solution
It is possible to break the fonts down into smaller familes respectively (4 or less), then you can access them all in software like Xara.
The Method
In order to accomplish this the font family needs to be renamed within the font file itself. (I don't know the legal implications of doing this with commercial fonts you own, but with EXO it is fine since it has an OFL license.) To rename the font family you need some sort of font editor. I use the freeware called Type Light 3.2, but Font Forge will also work although it is quite hard to get to work on windows.
Step 1. Uninstall all of the font family.
Step 2. Open one of the font styles and choose Fonts>Names> from the menu.
Step 3. Change the Family name to something appropriate.
Step 4. Save the font file over writing the old one and your done.
Note: You can assign up to, but no more that 4 of the font styles to the same family to make this work.
Create a Naming System That Works for You
I use a naming convention when "converting my files." Since I am a web designer, I find it easiest to use one based on the CSS "font-weight" property. i.e. numbers 100-900.
100 - Thin
200- Extra Light
300- Light
400- Regular (or Book)
500- Medium
600- DemiBold
700- Bold (or Heavy)
800- Black
900- Extra Black
With Exo and many others I usually group two of the font weights and their respective italics together. So I end up naming the familes "Exo 100/200, Exo 300/400 etc. Each of these families then contains four styles that corresponds to "regular" "italic" "bold" "bold italic" within that family.
Example: EXO 100/200 contains
Exo Thin
Exo Thin Italic
Exo Extra Light
Exo Extra Light Italic
The Converted Font File
Since I have already done the work on EXO, and since it is distributed under the Open Font License so it can be modified and redistributed, I am attaching the converted EXO font for your convenience.
Hope this helps a lot of others as well.
Paul
Attachment 91057
This is still one of the big weaknesses of Xara. Full support for opentype would solve all those problems, but as far as i know itīs a deep change in the programīs code. Serif already implemented it in Pageplus a long time ago and recently added Drawplus to that list. All the big names support it (read Adobe, Corel). Another big miss is hyphenation. Those two alone would make a huge difference in Xara DTP capabilities.
Letīs hope that they get implemented soon.
Welcome to TalkGraphics rithopaulo
Great information and solution.
Does anyone know if Windows 8 has better font support.
hey gary,
where is the solution you are talking about?
is a post missing?
to the moving of the thread: this is not a web problem. i just pointed to google web fonts because it's available to everyone for testing. you can download the fonts there and install the files the usual way in windows.
i don't think this will change in windows 8. this seems to be a xara problem. adobe manages to use all font styles in the cs suite.
bb,
FLy
Hum i think Gary was replying to another thread and managed to post his reply in the wrong thread (here) or someone deleted a post Gary was replying to in this thread and now his answer doesnīt make sense.
Thanks, but where did my solution go? I hope it did not get lost/.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwpriester
I hope not. Iīm kinda curious to know about that solution now :)
And by the way welcome to Talkgraphics rithopaulo!
Thanks. I've been a lurker here a long time, but never posted. Now my first post which took a lot of typing seems to have gone missing. :-OQuote:
Originally Posted by MEB
Unfortunately I did not save the text of the post so I will have to redo the whole thing if it does not show up.
Sorry, Mr. Moderator Dude Sir, was asleep at the wheel and and not see the post was moderated which makes it invisible to all but the asleep at the wheel moderator. :O
Gary would you approve the attachment to Rithopaulo's post?
Approving a moderated post that has an attachment is a two step process.
The attachment may have been automatically removed since this was a first time post.
rithopaulo, can you attach your attachment to a new post?
Gary it wasn't removed it is still attached to the post but only you and maybe Drwyd can see it. All I can see is the placeholder text.
No worries Gary. I am glad my post was still there, even if the font attachment seems to have disappeared. I will just attach the font again, because it may have gotten automatically deleted. The upload manager says "Uploads not utilized within one hour will be deleted." I don't know exactly what that means, but I assume since my post went into moderation, the attachment was not utilized in time, and it does not show up in my attachments anywhere.
So here it is again. Removed by me. I downloaded the font file myself and it doesn't work. I think it may be because the fonts are in use by the system, so when I go to zip them they are not being copied right. I will upload it as soon as I work it out.
Sounds good to me.
Bill - I could see the attachment but when I clicked nothing happened. I approved the attachment and then clicked again and still no luck.
Thanks Gary. vBulletin has changed how things work to the point very few things I remember still work in the forums.
No joy here either
Okay I got home from work, and figured the problem out. I had to uninstall the fonts and reboot to free up the files, because my font manager software was preventing the files from being copied into the zip archive.
Here is the modified Exo font. Attachment 91076 It works fine in Xara.
hey rithopaulo,Quote:
Originally Posted by rithopaulo
thanx for the conversion - looks and works very well now. i'm just doing some logostuff with exo and came via google to this old post.
i recognized testing the new webdesigner that this font thing seems to be fixed. so when will the new designer pro be available?
bb,
fly