Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
Sorry you feel ripped-off, Jeb.
I only have XD6 Pro. If I were to purchase XWD7 I would wholly expect to pay full-price. It's a separate application. And a relatively inexpensive one at that. If I got any level of discount on XWD7 Pro, I would feel blessed. A matter of perspective I guess.
Take care, Mike
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
Yes, it is.
I have X3D6, Webstyle 4, Xtreme 4 & 5 and Designer 6 Pro. I purchased the Pro because it was suppose to have all the others in one application.
By the way, they said they will be coming out with an upgrade to WD6 Pro as well - which I would get a discount on - so why can I not use WD7 until that happens?
It is a matter of prespective - and I still feel ripped off. - jb
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
XDP 6 *did* have all the web capabilities at the time of its release. With WebStyle 4 you get a roughly 30% discount on Premium. Not bad, not as much as you would like. It would cost me the whole enchilada to purchase Web Designer Premium, not having a previous purchase of the specific web applications.
Best regards. Mike
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
If I buy Adobe Flash they won't give me a discount off Adobe Photoshop.
Jeb, you have no reason to feel aggrieved.
It's a bizarre world where people agree to buy something, use it, then feel ripped off because a discount isn't offered for another product. You pay for what you're given, not something you expect but isn't part of the deal.
It would be nice if Xara offered a discount, but you'd soon be even more agrieved to be paying out again for an upgrade to your existing product.
Just be patient until XDPro 7 comes out, which by all accounts isn't too far off.
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
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jeb
...By the way, they said they will be coming out with an upgrade to WD6 Pro as well - which I would get a discount on - so why can I not use WD7 until that happens?...
WD6 Pro doesn't exist. DP6 Pro is going to be upgraded, yes. I've seen a lot of confusion recently - not just you jb - which I think stems from the use of the word "Designer" ... Xara Web Designer & Xara Designer Pro.
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
See how confusing it can be?? Above I should have said DP6 not DP6 Pro :D
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
Yes, it is confusing. But not so in the past - if one had one of the programs like X3D6 and wanted to upgrade to XX6, there was a discount. Like programs? Maybe.
Designer Pro 6 was suppose to be the program that had it all - graphics, web, 3D, everything - at lease they charged for it to have them - so it is a "like" program.
I have already purchased WD7 because I want the new goodies now but I will never be happy about having to pay more that if I had WD6. And when Designer Pro 7 comes out I will not be upgrading to it, even thought it would be nice to have everything in one place. It will take a while before they get any more of my money.
BTW, I even offered to pay for the Designer Pro 7 upgrade now and be allowed to use WD7 until it came out. Have heard nothing from them on that. - jb
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
Jeb I do not recall any discount for Xara 3D 6 owners to purchase Xara Designer Pro 6 or any other application. When Xara Xtreme Pro 4 and Xtreme Pro 5 were released I believe there was a free copy of Xara 3D 6 included.
I think there was a discount for Xara Webstyle 4 owners to upgrade to Web Designer 5.
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
I agree with Jeb. If you have any older Xara program, you should get a discount on any newer program. The amount of the discounts can vary, depending on the version and type of programs you are moving from and to.
Marketing is about satisfying customers. Software loyalties can change in an instant, since most graphics programs now export PDFs that can be opened and edited in other programs.
And Xara program names are now confusing. Just call the next main program 'Xara Pro 7'. Call the web program 'Xara Web Designer 7'. Xara Pro 7 should only sell as the 'pro' version. Xara Web Designer 7 should only sell as the 'premium' version. No lite or stripped-down versions should be offered for sale; the prices are low enough already given the amazing set of features and rapid development benefits these programs offer. If you want cheap, use PowerPoint.
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
Bill, you may be right but I seem to remember a discount for XX4 & 5 if you had any of the other Xara programs. And a discount for Designer Pro if you had XX4 or 5.
And I take exception to some thinking that Designer Pro 6 and Web Designer are not connected - Designer Pro 6 had ALL the other Xara programs in it - - X3D, graphics and web designing. That was the reason for purchasing - all in one. - jb
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
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jeb
...And I take exception to some thinking that Designer Pro 6 and Web Designer are not connected - Designer Pro 6 had ALL the other Xara programs in it - - X3D, graphics and web designing. That was the reason for purchasing - all in one. - jb
I guess that is meant towards me. They are separate programs whether you would like to think of them thatta way or not. Yes, XDP6 has the web stuff and a subset of the 3D stuff. It is the flagship, do all be all (for the most part) of Xara's offerings.
And, whenever the new version comes out, I suspect, much to my "displeasure," it will include all the web stuff and little enhancements to the vector side of things. I hope I am wrong. Heck, I would prefer to rip the web-guts out of XDP7 and build the vector side up into a fuller program. That's my wish, as long as we are wishing.
Take care, Mike
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
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jeb
I take exception to some thinking that Designer Pro 6 and Web Designer are not connected - Designer Pro 6 had ALL the other Xara programs in it - - X3D, graphics and web designing. That was the reason for purchasing - all in one. - jb
There's a differrence between overlapping feature sets and one program being a version of the other.
I guess Xara/Magix did the right thing because rather than follow your reason for buying an "all in one" program you've purchased the web designer version without any discount rather than wait a little longer to get those same features, perhaps plus some more in the program you will be offered a discount in.
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
It's not very common to have a downgrade discounts. Going from DP6 to WD7/P is a downgrade.
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
I've been away from site building for a while and only today decided to make a site for a new venture so opened XWD6 and WHAM an upgrade ..Fantastic ! I was quite prepared to pay 50% for the upgrade but to pay again for what I paid for a year ago seems a bit much. I don't feel ripped off just a little disappointed. I am sure many other part time Xara users will feel a little let down too,after all,especially these days is it not best to keep your existing customers with you and not let them be tempted to look elsewhere ?
Anyhoo thats my tuppence worth, now back to blowing the dust off my wd6.
Re: $39.95 not from XD6 Pro?
Web Designer 6 to Web Designer 7 is actually a downgrade.
Your only upgrade path is Web Designer 6 to Web Designer 7 Premium. It has significantly improved tools and more features than WD6.
The upgrade discount is $30.00