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Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
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neodeist
Are you going to repost some of those really helpful mini-tutorials Frank? Bookmarked some but you disappeared them :cool: Welcome back anyway :)
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Originally Posted by
beretgascon
I've no idea what could have posessed me to "disappear" them... :rolleyes:* If you remind me what they were I can post them to my gallery if I remember how that's done. I'm sure I still have them, I tend not to throw anything away.
Welcome back Frank. I too miss the mini-tutorials and all of the fantastic drawings that you had posted before deciding to 'disappear them'. I wouldn't mind seeing the VW Microbus, the Beer Mirror, and the rest of the lot magically reappear. ;)
Here's a short list of the mini-tutorials that I remember (there were probably more):
- Chrome Tutorial 1
- Chrome Tutorial 2
- Creating an Inner Shadow
- How Not to Stretch Circles
- Repel Text Inside a Character
- SigTutorial
Stick around,
Harry
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Re: Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
Hi Harry,
Many thanks for your kind words. It's been a while since I was here and from what I have read in the past few days things have changed for the better in some ways, for the worse in others. I've been through my own personal hell since I was last here and hope the worst is over and I am starting a period of relative peace and calm.
I've had a look around my User CP to see what's new, what's old and what's gone. I would be happy to post any images that people feel are helpful on the condition that I, as the copyright holder, retain control of those images. The rules state clearly on this page that All rights are retained by the original creator or copyright holder.
However, in all practicality, this is not the case. How so, you might ask? Well, if you go to your Attachments panel, you will see that you are not able to select an individual or multiple attachments to delete them. This means that if you choose to remove an image to which you hold the copyright, you have no option but to ask a moderator to remove it for you. What if the moderator disagrees and refuses where necessary to maintain forum continuity (quoted from the rules)?
Even worse, if you have the misfortune to be banned, you no longer have any access to your User CP / Attachments page. This means that you will have no way of even listing the images that are owned by you but which are no longer under your control.
I have written to Xara about this issue (as an artist and designer it is important to me) because when I raised it on these forums the matter was brushed off by certain moderators who decided I was being belligerent instead of understanding that I was raising an important intellectual copyright issue. Xara replied to me telling me that any image will be removed at a user's request. Well, as you can see from the above, if you are a prolific poster with hundreds of attachments, this is virtually impossible.
I don't know who took the decision to remove our right to delete our own Attachments, but until the ability for any user to delete any of his Attachments is restored I will be very wary of posting anything of value.
The alternative is for me to restore those mini-tutorials and copyrighted images onto my own server for public access (which I am very happy to do). However, as it states here, Images should be uploaded to the TalkGraphics server [...]. This is to ensure that such images are always available. Images hosted by third party hosts are susceptible to host closures/crashes etc and often render threads unintelligible. The XaraXone is hosted on a different server and IP to talkgraphics.com. There are god knows how many posts on this forum pointing to pages on the XaraXone, posts which will be rendered unintelligible if the site goes down. It is perhaps an unfair comparison because the same people look after the XaraXone and Talkgraphics servers, but the fact remains that an issue with one will not affect the other and vice versa (unless 1&1 Internet go down!).
In a world full of different graphic apps, I have a lot of time for Xara ones. I've always liked posting. Moreover, I like helping people. But whoever has fiddled with the users' control panel permissions has created this issue.
Sorry guys.
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That's too bad. I respect your position on the matter, though.
Well, I guess that's that.
Will someone please close this thread?
'Nuff said,
Harry
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Re: Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
Forum rules apply to all your actions. Forum continuity is one of the main priorities in moderators work. You still hold the copyright for all the materials uploaded to TG but doing so you agree for TG to keep them on-line as long as it is considered important for the forum. If you do not agree, please avoid posting anything.
If you publish some image in the printed magazine, what happens with your copyright? Are you still able to remove the image from all magazine copies sold?
And one more thing, let me remind everyone that discussing moderator actions is prohibited on this forum.
Thanks for understanding.
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why not make up an album in your profile and put them there Frank ?
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Re: Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
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Originally Posted by
covoxer
Forum rules apply to all your actions. Forum continuity is one of the main priorities in moderators work. You still hold the copyright for all the materials uploaded to TG but doing so you agree for TG to keep them on-line as long as it is considered important for the forum.
Excuse me? Where does it say in the rules that TG has the right to keep somebody's images indefinitely??? :banghead:
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covoxer
If you do not agree, please avoid posting anything.
OK. Point taken. If that is my only recourse then that is my only recourse.
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Originally Posted by
covoxer
If you publish some image in the printed magazine, what happens with your copyright? Are you still able to remove the image from all magazine copies sold?
This isn't a magazine. The same rules do not apply. A magazine is unable to remove my image once it has been printed - TG is. IANAL but a quick look at the rule book in Germany will tell you that the laws governing intellectual copyright varies between traditional and electronic media.
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covoxer
And one more thing, let me remind everyone that discussing moderator actions is prohibited on this forum.
Thanks for understanding.
You are not a moderator, but as a long-standing member above the level of ordinary user I'm assuming you speak with a certain authority. IMO some of these rules are grossly draconian (discussing moderator actions is prohibited on this forum??? You have to be kidding!), I honestly don't understand them, I certainly see no need for them and I don't agree with them. I will therefore revert to browsing and will stop posting.
I refuse to hand over to TG (please note that I am not saying Xara) a totally illegitimate and arbitrary right over my intellectual copyright, and if you don't want to understand that then, well, nm. I honestly thought the Xhris débacle was wake-up time for this forum - clearly not. However, I mean no offence to anybody and for me to stick around holding the opinions I do isn't going to do anybody any favours.
Whooosh, I'm outta here. K thx bai.
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Frank, when you were registering here for the umpteenth time, you had explicitly agreed with those draconian rules. If you do not for any reason, why do you even register?
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Originally Posted by
covoxer
And one more thing, let me remind everyone that discussing moderator actions is prohibited on this forum.
Thanks for understanding.
Hmm, does that also count for general policies?
I mean, here the person is not discussing a direct decision
of a moderator as such, but the general overall policy.
This way that rule gets stretch very far in my opinion.
(Are you a moderator by the way, because then I did
not comment on your remark ofcourse ;) )
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Ah, I knew it had been too quiet around here. ;))
The main moderator is on holiday for a few days, BF. If you send me a PM with links to the images you would like removed, I will see what I can do.
I can remove images in the Xtreme/Designer and Xara Art Gallery forums. I think. At least I can try.
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Re: Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
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Originally Posted by
covoxer
And one more thing, let me remind everyone that discussing moderator actions is prohibited on this forum.
Thanks for understanding.
i feel very very uncomfortable reading mumbo jumbo like this,
absolutely nonunderstanding,
FLy
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Yes, well, keep on topic too please. ;)
Thank you.
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And there goes another one! There will be nobody left here soon if things like this keep going.It feels like the moderators v's the people. How silly.
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Not being an Xpert at Xara.
Not being an Xpert at the rules in TG.
I would have to say that the last week has been a real eye opener.
All the political in-fighting is like hanging your dirty washing out on the line for everyone to see.
I agree with JaffDave's comment that it feels like the Moderators versus the people.
Is this forum owned by Xara?
If not, then I would love to know who does own it?
That might make things a bit clearer for everyone and then we would all know what to say or not?
I joined last year and found a place where everyone was willing to help and it seemed a place for everyone to share their successes and ideas.
Last week or so, it's been an argument about who loves the dark interface of XD6 or the light one. Well, I along with everyone else am entitled to an opinion but even that seemed to be getting rather heated. The answer is still simple, "Give the user the choice."
Then we have people getting banned and moderators resigning and so on.
Well, I think it's such a shame that we have to have all this.
When ever there are a group of people, yes, you have to have moderation but what I have seen recently only goes to destroy a magnificent forum.
:(
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The forum is owned by Xara. The moderators are volunteers and human. Best forum I've ever come across - because of the people and good moderating. Not every decision will be agreed with, sure, but as you imply all was chugging along very nicely. Two mods have gone, one is "on holiday" according to GWP. We'll just have to see what happens when the dust settles.
Agree entirely Rik, "...I think it's such a shame that we have to have all this..."
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Re: Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
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Originally Posted by
covoxer
You still hold the copyright for all the materials uploaded to TG but doing so you agree for TG to keep them on-line as long as it is considered important for the forum. If you do not agree, please avoid posting anything.
I wasn't aware of this. Who exactly will consider what is important for the Forum? I don't want to be dramatic about it, I just wasn't aware of this procedure of evaluating users posts if one decides to leave.
I already noticed that posts can't be deleted or edited after 2 hours (which personally I don't like at all).
Thanks for this information.
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er guys ...... the surface of my coffee is rippling and I can hear an ominous low thumping noise :eek:
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Drwyd
er guys ...... the surface of my coffee is rippling and I can hear an ominous low thumping noise :eek:
lol.....
easy way around copyright issues, post links to images and files you wish to protect rather than attaching them in the forum, if you no longer wish to have them availble on the TalkGraphics Forums then remove them from your linked page. Problem solved!!!:D
As a full time Web Developer/Graphic Designer I own my creations and will decide where and when they will be used. End of story.
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Hi JaffDave,
The 'rule' below is TGs stance on your statement of links to pics.....it's not against the rules to do so, but not encouraged I think....
Images should be uploaded to the TalkGraphics server [...]. This is to ensure that such images are always available. Images hosted by third party hosts are susceptible to host closures/crashes etc and often render threads unintelligible.
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Karateed
Hi JaffDave,
The 'rule' below is TGs stance on your statement of links to pics.....it's not against the rules to do so, but not encouraged I think....
Images should be uploaded to the TalkGraphics server [...]. This is to ensure that such images are always available. Images hosted by third party hosts are susceptible to host closures/crashes etc and often render threads unintelligible.
Yep i know but it's still a loop hole for those concerned, Items I post are usually help files or something I need help on so I trend to attach. Have posted links in the past though.
The terms held within these forums would not hold up in a court of law if someone were to challenge copyright regardless of what they say. There is no physical proof that the one using the forum is the one whom agreed to the terms, anyway i digress in fear that the all mighty powers that be start pointing their heavy hands at my profile. :cool:
I don't have a problem with the forum rules by the way - 'it's in my opinion' the statement I make above.
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if you link rather than post - you may find that your image is posted up 'for you' - the rules allow this apparently
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Nostaw
Who exactly will consider what is important for the Forum?
Moderators and if necessary, Xara.
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I don't want to be dramatic about it, I just wasn't aware of this procedure of evaluating users posts if one decides to leave.
There's nothing dramatic really. If you had decided to remove some content, you write to moderator explaining him what you want to remove and why. If the reason is the copyright matter it most certainly will be removed as requested. You may get refusal only in some really extreme cases like the case with Big Frank removing all his attachments at once to sabotage forums.
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Thanks for clarifying, John.
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Re: Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
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Originally Posted by
beretgascon
Hi Harry,
Many thanks for your kind words. It's been a while since I was here and from what I have read in the past few days things have changed for the better in some ways, for the worse in others. I've been through my own personal hell since I was last here and hope the worst is over and I am starting a period of relative peace and calm.
I've had a look around my User CP to see what's new, what's old and what's gone. I would be happy to post any images that people feel are helpful on the condition that I, as the copyright holder, retain control of those images. The rules state clearly
on this page that
All rights are retained by the original creator or copyright holder.
However, in all practicality, this is not the case. How so, you might ask? Well, if you go to your Attachments panel, you will see that you are not able to select an individual or multiple attachments to delete them. This means that if you choose to remove an image to which you hold the copyright, you have no option but to ask a moderator to remove it for you. What if the moderator disagrees and refuses
where necessary to maintain forum continuity (quoted from the rules)?
Even worse, if you have the misfortune to be banned, you no longer have any access to your User CP / Attachments page. This means that you will have no way of even listing the images that are owned by you but which are no longer under your control.
I have written to Xara about this issue (as an artist and designer it is important to me) because when I raised it on these forums the matter was brushed off by certain moderators who decided I was being belligerent instead of understanding that I was raising an important intellectual copyright issue. Xara replied to me telling me that any image will be removed at a user's request. Well, as you can see from the above, if you are a prolific poster with hundreds of attachments, this is virtually impossible.
I don't know who took the decision to remove our right to delete our own Attachments, but until the ability for any user to delete any of his Attachments is restored I will be very wary of posting anything of value.
The alternative is for me to restore those mini-tutorials and copyrighted images onto my own server for public access (which I am very happy to do). However,
as it states here,
Images should be uploaded to the TalkGraphics server [...]. This is to ensure that such images are always available. Images hosted by third party hosts are susceptible to host closures/crashes etc and often render threads unintelligible. The XaraXone is hosted on a different server and IP to talkgraphics.com. There are god knows how many posts on this forum pointing to pages on the XaraXone, posts which will be rendered unintelligible if the site goes down. It is perhaps an unfair comparison because the same people look after the XaraXone and Talkgraphics servers, but the fact remains that an issue with one will not affect the other and vice versa (unless 1&1 Internet go down!).
In a world full of different graphic apps, I have a lot of time for Xara ones. I've always liked posting. Moreover, I like helping people. But whoever has fiddled with the users' control panel permissions has created this issue.
Sorry guys.
Hear! Hear!
Same reason I stopped posting things on here as well. The other reason was when it all went thumbnail images as well. If I create a nice tutorial that's 3000 pixels long and it's scaled down it's unreadable - so not point making them. If I'm drawing a nice image that works at 1,200 across i don't want it displayed at 800 across and loosing all the detail and being compressed by xara and then me loosing the control of it.
But it's a good job there's loads of other people willing to contribute to this forum still because I think a few of the old guard feel the same.
I know these points have already been made but it's just worth sticking up for a fellow contributor.
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oh yes
no serious art here from me, ever
and the way things go - maybe nothing at all
but hey there are other places to go
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OK A few observations. (Yes, I am still here. You cannot get rid of me that easy :rolleyes:).
The fracas that took place last week was unfortunate. The one thing I have learned from many years moderating this forum is members, with a few notable exceptions, do not like conflicts, and find them disturbing. And I don't blame them. It was not easy on the moderators either. As should be obvious.
John Horn (covoxer) is better than a moderator. He is also one of the main programmers responsible for the excellent web capabilities in found in Web Designer 6 and Designer Pro 6. His contributions are exceptional especially in terms of his support in these forums, his knowledge of the products from a programming point of view, and his Tweak Set which extends the power of Web Designer 6 and Designer Pro 6. But John is a no nonsense guy and I would not get in a flame war with him. He usually wins. :-O
Finally, if you do not like the idea of your images remaining on TalkGraphics in perpetuity, you have the option of posting on your website and adding a link either to your website or providing a URL link to where you image can be found. This can be done in the Manage Attachments dialog (see attached). So if at any time you wish to remove your image(s) simply remove them from your website and they are gone. How easy is that?
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;)
you get no more than what you are prepared to put up with - a basic rule of life, is it not?
get rid of you Gary :eek::eek: - the one rock in a stormy sea :cool:
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gwpriester
OK A few observations. (Yes, I am still here. You cannot get rid of me that easy :rolleyes:).
The fracas that took place last week was unfortunate. The one thing I have learned from many years moderating this forum is members, with a few notable exceptions, do not like conflicts, and find them disturbing. And I don't blame them. It was not easy on the moderators either. As should be obvious.
John Horn (covoxer) is better than a moderator. He is also one of the main programmers responsible for the excellent web capabilities in found in Web Designer 6 and Designer Pro 6. His contributions are exceptional especially in terms of his support in these forums, his knowledge of the products from a programming point of view, and his Tweak Set which extends the power of Web Designer 6 and Designer Pro 6. But John is a no nonsense guy and I would not get in a flame war with him. He usually wins. :-O
Finally, if you do not like the idea of your images remaining on TalkGraphics in perpetuity, you have the option of posting on your website and adding a link either to your website or providing a URL link to where you image can be found. This can be done in the Manage Attachments dialog (see attached). So if at any time you wish to remove your image(s) simply remove them from your website and they are gone. How easy is that?
Good point Gary!
I thought images could be removed at any time, just not the post.
But of course I don't do it so really don't know for sure. I must be wrong about that or Gary would have said so.
What say you Gary?
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Let's do a little test with Gary's theory ...
EDIT :
As expected it takes the image and puts it onto the TalkGraphics servers - so deleting on your space is not a option.
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I can completely understand Xara's willingness to want to keep everything that has been posted on here because there's
a number of good contributors and contributions and it builds into a valuable resource for other people to search through.
And look at. If people want to take their bat and ball home that only hurts Talk Graphics because those people can just
delete all their tutorials if they're hot linked, and not host on TG, in one easy go. Which courses TG to be not as helpful as before.
The same with the hot linked hosting that goes down or is no longer paid for - the files disappear - and posts are not longer
helpful.
But what I think that Xara has failed to recognise is that it's within the rights of contributors to do so - taking away the
control from them is an insult to the ownership of their time and effort - and actually of pretty dubious legality.
Xara obviously know this because they say - "Well if you want something deleted then you can ask a moderator". But this
just doesn't cut it.
When it comes to the content of this board - especially, that of people that have put time and effort into to help others,
and give help to people in future - that rests with the people giving help, ideas or new techniques. If Xara is serious about
content contributors and want ownership of that content or even control of it then they should be putting their hands in
their pocket, like any other business - as someone said once, "there's not such thing as a free lunch".
But I can see contributors getting annoyed because Xara want to have it's cake and eat it.
Me, I just don't bake any more cakes, cos the new Job'esque levels of control-freakery on this board have left a sour
taste in my mouth.
I only come on here to grubble like an old man - "boards rubbish now" "no new vector tools" etc etc
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James, you are correct. So that leaves the option to post a link in the thread to a page on your site with the image or tutorial or whatever.
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Gary, I think the point that JaffDave, Handrawn and others are trying to make is even where people have created an image/tutorial and have chosen to host it on their own webspace, and then link to or embed that content into their post, that their messages have then been edited by a moderator so as to copy the image to the Talkgraphics server.
Not all moderators do it, and I appreciate that you're one of the ones that don't, but one of the ones that does - presently absent - is rather forthright in his opinion of what is best, and curt/abrupt (to British ears, at least) in response to even private questioning.
As JokeArtist similarly concludes, the answer appears to be not to post - but that simply means the forum is poorer because of the policies imposed.
JokeArtist's other point about the new enforced automatic thumbnails is a good one: we were told that the thumbnails were A Good Thing because not everyone has a quick internet connection, but in the User CP there is an option for people with slow internet connections so that they can turn off images in posts. See this screenshot - apologies that you can't read it directly, but you'll understand that it has been thumbnailed automatically...
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Daniel
I think the point that ... others are trying to make is even where people have created an image/tutorial and have chosen to host it on their own webspace, and then link to or embed that content into their post, that their messages have then been edited by a moderator so as to copy the image to the Talkgraphics server.
I don't know for certain, but suspect that the forum software has been configured to do this automatically without moderator intervention. Furthermore, this may have been a decision by the moderators, not Xara, per se, as the company seems to have be have been rather hands off in the policy setting and general day-to-day running of the forum. Just my speculation.
At any rate, if this prevents talented contributors like James (JokeArtist) and Big Frank from participating, I'd prefer to see this "feature" turned off. Perhaps it could even be a user-by-user choice as to whether to allow the images they upload to be hosted at TG as many may not mind.
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just turrned off for 'artwork' Galleries even would be something
that way, although it would be missed if removed, it would not impinge a great deal on the 'usefulness' of the forum...
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Is this forum owned by Xara? No, Xara only pays a very small price to host the site. The forum is owned by the members, it is their input that creates the society that's TG. Xara's day to day input is zilch. TG is what Xara support ought to be but is a very pale imitation of.
As for linking to external sites/images then fine..... Apart from the fact that if you allow any member to access and delete their content then thread after thread can become meaningless. But far worse beyond that who monitors the content of an external link?
I can add an external link to which contains a drawing of a tranquil river scene. As that's my web space I can replace that image in a month or so's time but still named "tranquil_river.jpg" once it's dropped under the radar of moderation to one that contains pornography / bigotry / racialism / malware / viruses / etc, etc, etc, the list is endless.
That's why hot-linking is discouraged. Bad or good moderation?
Are you aware of how many members TG has that have zero posts? I can't inform you of the actual number now either as I'm no longer a moderator but it's HUGE! I'd say for every new, genuine member who registers daily there are 20 to 30 new members daily who register to bump up their google link count. Steve in particular has taken this issue aboard and implemented a simple question in the registration process. The questions can be answered by a 5 year old! Good moderation? Oh no, the flack comes thick and fast from members and Xara in particular saying this is difficult & heavy handed.
There are certain individuals with an axe to grind, usually because they have been on the end of a moderation decision they can't accept. Fine. However in my opinion the moderation of TG has been very light weight, bans have been few and far apart and a lot of disputable moderator decisions are down to the fact that members are unaware of the potential onslaught to forums nor the reasoning behind them.
I have been a moderator on TG (or it's predecessor I/US (?)) for 10 to 15 years now, I genuinely can't recall. I have been a lover and enthusiastic user of Xara products dating back to the Acorn Archimedes and Artworks.
Xara has bought this situation on itself by believing that moderators on TG are the same as employees. I am not an employee of Xara. I will not accept dictates / instructions / new rules laid down by Xara. My and other moderators input to TG are there for members to judge. We do get it wrong sometimes but we have to maintain our independence.
I would also take this opportunity to thank all those members who have offered support over the past two weeks. It is greatly appreciated.
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Hi Egg
Sounds to me like your argument is similar in principle [though not the same] as the ones we [at work] have about editorial independence
Whilst I have much sympathy with this, I cannot see anything in Charles' post to argue against myself
All proprietors/landlords/hosting_facillitators call them what you will, have house_rules/policy/conditions, and these may change just like any other rules
and on the other issue:
I'm not a fan of hot-linking - just being able to remove art posted on the art gallery forums - you know, being treated as a responsible grown-up ;)
I'm sorry to see you step down as moderator, glad you are still here
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Steve, you are registered and active for about 3 years here, right?
The possibility of removing any attachments by user was blocked only about a year ago or so after BF demonstrated that not everyone can be "treated as a responsible grown-up".
Still you hadn't posted much serious art in the previous 2 years, when you had full control over your attachments.
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Hi John
My recollection is that the ability to delete art that ended 'after-BF' had not been in place that long - I remember being pleasantly supprised to see it [re?]appear ;)
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There is one thing I don't understand. Whether your image is on the TG servers or on your own site or anywhere on the internet anyone who knows how to take a screenshot can access your image. There are also programs now that using fractals can make it possible to increase the resolution of a screenshot quite a bit. I admit those programs are expensive but still it is possible. So what is really the harm in contributing something back to those who have helped you?
TG is what it is because most of us try to give back to the community we learn so much from. I always feel good when someone is able to learn something from what I've posted, because perhaps that person will eventually give back to TG too and our community continues to grow.
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Frances
I agree that you cannot prevent copying
I agree that helping others is one reason why many of us [me included] are here
The issue for me is copyright
I am a busy man - I do not have the time to post up art that is drawn specially for TG
I can post up work that is not done specially for TG, under certain circumstances, one of which is I retain full control of its official distribution
Unoffical distribution is a fact of life we all have to live with :(
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What I was trying to ask was even if you could remove your attachments you still can't protect your image so how does being able to remove them protect your copyright? Is there something I'm missing?
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Re: Request to repost Frank's mini-tutorials & drawings that disappeared
You are wrong Steve, it was always there.
Your concerns about possible copyright infringement by Talk Graphics are nothing more than an empty sound.
There are plenty of talented artists who had posted on TG for about 10 years. There is a huge amount of users content on this forum. Yet for all these years there was not a single case of the copyright dispute or any problems here.
You had not posted anything but you are already complaining about copyright issues... Please continue, I'm sure everyone here is quite entertained.