3 State Navbar bug in XDP6

This is a repeatable bug for me. Create a button with 3 states (MouseDown being the extra state). Do all the normal things, have a shape and some text and I group each layer and soft group all three layers. View the button in the preview and it works just fine. Now try to make your button a navbar and I get the error message below. The crazy thing is if I create the same button in XWD6 and then make a navbar it works just fine. It even works fine in XDP6 if I copy and paste it in as a Xara Document.

See the attached file. The simple button can't be converted to a navbar for me.

Eric

I take this back...it has nothing to do with the 3rd state. I can't convert ANY button to a navbar in XDP6.

Create a simple button.
Give it a link so that it previews as a button.
Select it and then click the button to make it a navbar.
You get the same error message as I did above.

Definitely a bug on two different machines, one running XP and the other Vista.

Eric

Hi all, same problem trying to create a nav bar. I also tried to open a button fron Xara pro 5 buttons gallery without success.
So with no buttons available in the Design gallery (not available in trial version even though I have bought and registred), is it possible to create a working navbar from scratch?
Regards, Peter

Eric I'm not sure what I'm doing differently than you, but the attached is your file with a new button add. The Create Navbar function worked without an error message.

I'm using Xara Designer Pro 6 on Vista Ultimate.

Bill, I too downloaded Eric's xar file and got the same message as him?
Would you please verify if you can import / open a button from the XXP5 button gallery to make a Navbar with.
Many thanks, Peter
PS I am using Windows 7 home premium 64 bit if that makes a difference.

Hi Bill,

Yup. From your button I can create the navbar without any problems. But can you create a navbar from mine?

I am having this problem on two separate machines. One is Vista (enterprise I would guess as it is a work computer) and the other is XP.

If I wasn't having the problem on two machines, I would think it was a problem with my setup.

Eric

Eric I cannot create a navbar from your button until I remove the soft group and select only the button on the MouseOff layer.

Pete, I'll need to do a test. I've never used the supplied templates. ;)

Pete there is a bug in the Design Gallery. The problem is being looked into.

I have registered Designer Pro 6 yet get a message that the "Design is not included in the trial".

Bill, re the navbar situation, if you create a button with grouped text, no mouseoff layer the navbar creation works, but not if there is a soft-grouped mouseoff layer?
Peter

The grouped shape and text to be used for a button/navbar must be on the MouseOff layer.

Select the group and then Create Navigation Bar.

After the navbar is created you can then begin making MouseOver and MouseDown layer images if you want.

Thanks for that Bill. I'll give it a try. However...this can't be how the software was meant to work.

This was my exact work flow.

On the MouseOff layer
Create rectangle and give it a color.
Create Center Justified Text and give it a color.
Select both and Ctrl+L and center them.
Press Ctrl+G to group them
Press Ctrl+C to copy

Open layer gallery and select MouseOver layer
Press Ctrl+Shift+V to paste in place.
Drill down in the group (within the Layer gallery) to the rectangle
Select a different color.
Select the whole button again
Press Ctrl+C to copy

Select MouseOver layer again
Press New and name the new layer MouseOff and make sure that it is selected
Press Ctrl+Shift+V to paste in place.
Drill down in the group (within the Layer gallery) to the rectangle
Select a different color.

Drag select all of the buttons (info bar shows 3 groups on 3 layers)
Press Ctrl+Alt+G to soft group.

Press the Create Navagation Bar button
And the error comes up.

If that isn't the right way to do it, then I would like to know what the right way is.

Eric

Eric I don't use the web page features so we have already gone past my ability to assist. ;)

In Eric's example, I removed the SG and selected the mouseoff layer, then I was able to create a navbar without errors.
This is slightly different to WD6.

Steve,

Does that mean that the soft groups are no longer necessary?

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Originally Posted by sledger

In Eric's example, I removed the SG and selected the mouseoff layer, then I was able to create a navbar without errors.
This is slightly different to WD6.

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Same problem here. The error message comes up as soon as I try to add a mouseover state, although I have a button + text group on each layer and softgrouped them as required.

Removing the SG and selecting the mouseoff layer does not help. You do get a navbar without errormessage, but unfortunately without any mouseover state.

Hope somebody can spot our mistake...

Regards,
Hubert

This isn't a mistake Hubert. It has to be a bug. The fact that it works on some peoples machines and not on others seems strange though.

I'm inclined to agree so I've reported it.

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Originally Posted by bcire68

Steve,

Does that mean that the soft groups are no longer necessary?

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No, the Soft Group mechanism is absolutely vital for NavBars and your workflow looks exactly right.

There have not been any changes with respect to NavBars between WD6 and XDP6 - it is meant to work in exactly the same way in XPD6 as it did in WD6.

I will look into this (bug #7762).

Unfortunately, NavBar creation from designs with more than one state is broken in the first Designer 6 release version. :( This will be fixed as quickly as possible.

Thanks Martin, good news.

The bug is fixed, so things will work with the next patch release. Sorry about the inconvenience caused by this problem.

Great news Martin. And amazingly fast work finding and correcting the bug.:)

I too appreciate the news that the bug has been fixed. Thank you.

Eric