Still-life with Bottle & Fruit

I did this in Painter Classic. A quick still life which is actually much more loose than my actual paintings in acrylic. This is fun stuff :-D

http://www.dkingdesign.com/stuff/pai...till_life1.JPG

David K
www.dkingdesign.com

I did this in Painter Classic. A quick still life which is actually much more loose than my actual paintings in acrylic. This is fun stuff :-D

http://www.dkingdesign.com/stuff/pai...till_life1.JPG

David K
www.dkingdesign.com

David,

I'm just back from visiting your site and want to say that it's a beautiful one.. clean and easy to navigate.

More important (to me anyway) is your art. I really like the whimsical style you've developed and the great use of color and light.

I'd love to see what you can do with a full version of Painter, that offers so much more than Painter Classic. The current version is Painter 6 and Painter 7 is in Beta testing and due to be released this year.

Hope to see more of your work, and thanks for sharing it with us. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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[This message was edited by Jinny Brown on May 04, 2001 at 02:52 PM.]

Thanks ... Painter Classic came with my Wacom Tablet and I don't think I could afford Painter as it's like $650 Canadian. Unless I could do the $199US upgrade from Painter Classic to Painter. Is that possible? (it didnt really say at Corel's site). Anyway, I haven't done much with it so far so I'll fiddle with it for now and maybe get Painter many months from now ... when's 7 coming out anyway?

Actually , to tell you the truth, Corel's site is a little skimpy (understatement) on info for it's products (I find). So do you know of a place where I can get a good idea of what's in Painter. I just clicked to your site now so maybe I'll see something there ...

David K
www.dkingdesign.com

David,

Before I get into a very lengthy description of what's different in Painter 6 from Painter Classic (and earlier full versions of Painter), here's the URL to a page on the Corel site that offers the Painter 6 upgrade for $159.99 US (read the second paragraph on the page):

http://www.corel.com/painterfreebies/

Now for a nice long list of what's different:

What does Painter 6 offer that Painter Classic doesn't?

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Snips from a page on the Wacom site:

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Layers-- as many as you need

More brushes-- almost twice as many as Corel Painter Classic

The power to create and store your own brushes

Create and store your own paper textures

Impasto brushes, so your brush strokes have a 3 dimensional feel

Brush loading, with each bristle having it's own color

Web brushes, specially built for web design

Airbrushes that react as a real airbrush would

Animation

Tilt sensitivity, so can can angle your chalk or your palette knife.

Practically unlimited control over your brushes. Create and define new brushes with control over bleed, size, jitter, saturation, diffusion and more!"

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A page on the Corel site (sorry about the long URL.. be sure to get it all if you have to copy and paste it):

http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi...etToKnow/Index

Another page on the Corel site with links to more information (with images) on Painter 6 Impasto, Updated User Interface, Brush Loading, Text on a Curve, and More Realistic Airbrushes (same comment about the long URL):

http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi...id=CC1IG74SBAC

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Descriptions written by me for other Painter Classic users who ask what's different in Painter 6 or to people who debate whether Photoshop or Painter is the best software:

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Written April 25, 2001

"What is the difference in Painter 6? There's so much to tell.

First, any full Painter version has a huge number of features not available in Painter Classic. Even old Painter 4 that I started with did, and that was years ago and three versions back from Painter 6 (Painter 4, 5, and 5.5).

I'll try to list some of the main things new in Painter 6. Many of these items are new since Painter 5.5 which was the last full version (as opposed to Painter Classic which is not part of the full Painter series of versions) and all but a very small handful of brush variants are in addition to what you have in Painter Classic:
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In the TOOLS PALETTE, there are more tools:

Under the Grabber tool, there's a tool called the ROTATE PAGE tool that lets you temporarily rotate the image to make it easier to paint or draw and with a click in the image it snaps back to the normal position.

The MAGIC WAND tool, another tool to make selections.

The PEN tool used to draw vector based bezier curves and Shapes that can be edited using the SHAPE SELECTION, ADD POINT, REMOVE POINT, and CONVERT POINT tools.

The QUICK CURVE tool used to draw freehand vector based bezier curves and Shapes, also editable.

The OVAL and RECTANGULAR SHAPE tools used to draw vector based Shapes that are editable.

In the BRUSHES PALETTE, there are oodles of new and improved brushes. Painter's brush technology has advanced considerably in the full versions and, in addition to the default Painter brush library, there are many more libraries on the CD. Also, and we can create our own custum brushes and then create custom libraries to organize them. The default brushes include (Brush type - number of variants):

Pencils 5
Erasers 4
Brushes 15
Dry Media 10
Impasto 32
Pens 14
Image Hose 20
Felt Pens 3
Liquid 13
Airbrush 9
F/X 10
Photo 9
Artists 6
Cloners 23
Water Color 8

You can take a look at the extra brushes found on the Painter 6 CD at Jeremy Sutton's website:

http://www.portrayals.com/tipxtrabrshesp6.html

If you can, take some time to explore the rest of Jeremy's site. It's packed full of wonderful art, resourcs, and Painter tips and that can give you some idea of what more Painter 6 contains and is capable of doing.

The Impasto brushes are wonderful and they include the Impasto Pattern Pen that paints a selected Pattern within the brush stroke itself. This brush has several additional settings for an even wider variety of brush stroke effects. The Pen brush also has a Pattern Pen with equal variety available.

Brushes can be set to paint with more than one color at a time, among the many other settings available in the Expression section of the Brush Controls palette.

The PALETTES include:
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TOOLS (described above)
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BRUSHES (brush types listed above)
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ART MATERIALS, with the following sections...

Colors (pick colors)

Papers (defaults, or created by painting or selecting from any image)

Patterns (defaults or created by painting or selecting from any image)

Gradients

Weaves (plaids, etc.)

RGB Color (set the color precisely)

Color Set (create your own color palettes)

Color Variability (set the brush to paint with multiple colors)

Nozzles (used with the Image Hose to paint a spray of images)

Looks (brush looks)
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OBJECTS PALETTE, with the following sections...

Layers (including a Layers list and other buttons and settings)

Masks (each Layer has a corresponding mask, edited by painting white or black)

Scripts (Painter automatically records a script of whatever you do and saves it for up to 10 days depending on your choice. You can also record a script and save it for later use.

Dynamic Layers (various features such as Bevel World, Dynamic Text, Kaleidoscope, Burn, Tear, etc.)

Image Portfolio (default images you can click and drag onto your image... we can also save our own images here.

Selection Portfolio (default selections we can click and drag onto the image.. we can also save our own selections here)

Net Painter (allows us to connect to a host computer, that of any of the participants, and do online collaborative painting withmultiple participants)
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CONTROLS PALETTE (changes with each tool picked from the TOOLS palette, and provides appropriate options to set that tool)
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BRUSH CONTROLS PALETTE, with the following sections...

General (sets the Dab Type, Stroke Type, Method, and Subcategory as well as Opacity)

(There are too many settings in the folowing sections to describe here.)
Size
Spacing
Angle
Bristle
Impasto
Expression
Well
Airbrush
Rake
Random
Water
Cloning
Mouse

In the Art Materials palette, we can also create our own Patterns, Papers, Gradients, Weaves, Nozzles, etc., and then create custom libraries to organize them.

Layers are automatically transparent and can be stacked one above the other, reordered in heirarchy, grouped, collapsed to a single layer, duplicated, and selections can be made on them (unlike earlier versions where you could only make a selection on the canvas).

These are only highlights that come to mind and there's much more to discover. I do hope you decide to buy Painter 6 because it's a marvelous program that will keep you delighted and surprised for a long time. I've been using it since December 1999 and still learn something new each day."


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Written April 5, 2001:

"First of all, Painter doesn't have any serious competition when it comes to it's most distinctive and beloved feature.. that is, Painter's Natural Media Brushes that simulate what else? .. natural media oil and watercolor brushes, pens, felt tip markers, chalk, charcoal, crayons, pencils... and **great Painter 6 Impasto brush variants including the Pattern Pens **... and on and on it goes. Painter allows us to create endless numbers of custom brush variants.. in addition to the very large number and variety of default brushes and variants and this makes its brush technology even more exciting and useful.

Painter is "made in heaven" for artists, though it can be used to do almost anything else you want, including a good deal of what Photoshop does. In addition to Painter's Natural Media Brushes, it can be used to create movies/animations, web graphics and image maps, do photo retouching and other manipulation, clone painting, Dynamic Text (can be edited over and over until it's committed to an image layer) that gives us a lot of freedom to create neat text effects, vector-based objects (Painter Shapes) made with the Shape tools (Pen, Quick Curve, Oval, Rectangular) and edited (with the Scissors, Add Point, Remove Point, and Convert Point tools)... to name a few things (not to mention Net Painter that allows us to do online collaborative painting).

I've heard it put as simply as "Painter is for artists. Photoshop is for photo manipulation.", but that's not the whole story by far. Both are powerful programs. Personally, I find Painter much more suited to my nature and my needs. For me, it's far more intuitive than Photoshop which I find too technical and unresponsive to say nothing of far too limited when it comes to spontaneous creativity. But then that's not how people who love Photoshop feel. I guess it's good that there's more than one option for different people's needs and natures."

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There's more to tell and far more to experience using Painter 6 but I hope this has helped a bit and you understand some more about what full Painter versions contain.

Happy Painting! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

[This message was edited by Jinny Brown on May 05, 2001 at 01:56 AM.]

Thanks ... it all looks neat.

I really can't afford to buy any software right now but Painter is definately on my list. I will keep using Painter Classic and perhaps some of the things I make I will offer on Ebay as prints on paper. Thanks for all the info .... it's very helpful.

Speaking of prints done from the computer, do you know of any information on "archival" quality papers and inks for making really good prints. I have a Lexmark Z31 which gives a good image but I was just curious about these materials.

David K
www.dkingdesign.com

Hello D. King,
I just looked at your site and I like your work. (I am Partial to cats.)I really enjoyed your fun use of color.
The post of your Classic image is impressive. I get the feeling that you like to push what ever medium you are working with.
I hope that you will eventually get your hands on Painter. You and Painter would make a natural fit.

Regards,
Greg

Inside every older person is a younger one asking "What the H--- happened".

Hi,

It might be helpful to join the digital-fineart list. They discuss this sort of thing a lot and should be able to give you some good information.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital-fineart

They're quite an active group so I hope this helps.

Mr. Bat [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] ...

I wholeheartedly agree that our new member is a candidate for "perfect fit" with Painter. Wonderful work!

[img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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thanks ... you gone and made me blush [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif[/img] ... ;-)

I'm checking out that link right now ... nice work to you two too [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] ... I bookmarked both your sites


I have been thinking I might try to sell off my copy of Cinema4d-Go for a couple 100$ Canadian as I really don't use it. 3D is not really something I'm much into. I could put that money towards upgrading to Painter. Just think I ended up dishing out about $400 Canadian for that $199US program from California last year. I can only hope I could get an upgrade to Painter and be spared costs like the brokerage fee I was given with C4D-Go ( Corel is from Ottawa after all and I'm in Halifax )

David K
www.dkingdesign.com

Here's another still life I just did today.

http://www.dkingdesign.com/stuff/pai..._may6_2001.jpg

It's kindof nice not to clean brushes (even though acrylic is easy to clean up) ...and the undo button is sure nice ;-)

David K
www.dkingdesign.com

David,

In case I forgot to mention this.. and probably did forget...

If you go to the DigArts site and buy either Jungle2D, Jungle3D, or Tubular Neon, you can get a free copy of Painter 5.5. The cost for one of these CDs is about $80 to $90 U.S. and the Painter software is the PCFormat Painter 5.5 Web Edition, a full version of Painter and a good one. It's the last version before Painter 6 and there are plenty of free tutorials available for it as well as a CD at a reasonable price from Karen Sperling's Artistry Online.

Jungle2D and Jungle3D contain Nozzles and images... trees, leaves, branches, etc. that can be used in Painter. Jungle3D can also be used in 3D programs like Bryce. Tubular Neon is what it sounds like.. you can paint tube shaped Neon brush strokes.. fun to use.

Dennis Berkla's DigArts site:

http://www.gardenhose.com

There are free tutorials there, as well.

Karen Sperling's Artistry Online site:

http://www.artistrymag.com

For a sample of Karen's writing, take a look at some of her free tutorials and the one currently on Corel's designer.com site (it's the first one):

http://www.designer.com

Hope this helps you. We're not pushing you much are we? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

Jinny Brown
http://www.pixelalley.com
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Thanks for the link ... it's a possibility but it will have to wait a while until I feel I have a bit more breathing room money-wise. Thanks for all the info though, it's helpful :-)

David K
www.dkingdesign.com