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Ribbon-like interfaces (ala Office 2007)
While happily trying out Windows 7 many noticed that Paint and Wordpad just got a visual refresh with a brand new ribbon interface.
Apart from Microsoft Office 2007 suite, what other software use this solution?
How do you guys feel about it?
Autodesk Autocad (interface example).
Power Archiver (interface example).
Mind Manager (interface example).
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Giovanni
While happily trying out Windows 7 many noticed that Paint and Wordpad just got a visual refresh with a brand new ribbon interface.
Apart from Microsoft Office 2007 suite, what other software use this solution?
How do you guys feel about it?
Exactly what is supposed to be so special about the 'ribbon' interface? I've seen it before and it just looks like they use large icons. Big deal. :rolleyes:
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Hate it - Personally, I want to keep the toolbars as small as possible, whilst maximizing the number of tools on the bar. I like to know exactly where each icon is and click on it. I also want the workspace to be as large as possible.
I have Office 2007 at work, and spend half my time trying to find commands .... There's still a large number of commands that I still can't find!
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I don't know why you quoted all those articles, they didn't say much at all.
Look-you obviously like this 'new' ribbon look. To me it's just a big waste of space. MS has run out of marketing gimmicks and is promoting ribbons as a big deal. Not one of those articles mentioned anything that could remotely be called a different approach.
That's it for me, I can't be bothered talking about this silly ribbon feature for another ten pages. Have fun. :D
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Giovanni
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not had much exposure to office 2007 - but it felt rather like word with docked palettes
probably got that all wrong :D
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ss-kalm
Hate it - Personally, I want to keep the toolbars as small as possible, whilst maximizing the number of tools on the bar. I like to know exactly where each icon is and click on it. I also want the workspace to be as large as possible.
+1. Could not agree more
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I have Office 2007 at work, and spend half my time trying to find commands .... There's still a large number of commands that I still can't find!
Oh, misguided one, you actually want to be productive and get some work done? Shame,shame on you, you're supposed to be staring at the boo-ti-ful ribbon interface all day! ;)
Cheers
Doug
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however on the other hand office 2007 is, I am led to believe, a big improvement in terms of productivity
I can use word 2000 in my sleep and have no need to change, but my wife likes office 2007 a lot - uses it at work and home - she likes the ribbons too [I just asked], she is not technical if that is any indication ;)
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When I had migrated from Office 2000 to Office 2007 I thought that I will soon get used to it and it will be even more convenient than the old one... After a year of use this assumption still hadn't materialised. :confused:
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Improv, the articles I linked where meant as "visual" examples to see two type of interfaces one next to the ohter, the text had nothing to do with our discussion.
Actually I like the fluent-ribbon interface, that's why I'm asking if you people know other programs that use it.
It looks like Autodesk is implementing it in a few apps other than Autocad. 3D Studio Max 2010, Revit...
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I know I'm going to regret asking this - what is this ribbon interface you lot are talking about???
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Frank - if you open Office 2007 applications they will have a graphic horizontal toolbar (the ribbon) at the top of the window - instead of a whole bunch of little tool icons. It is almost like having a webpage style navigation. You can't see all the options at once. Clicking, say, 'Format' will expand that part of the toolbar and provide numerous commands relating to formatting. When you later click 'view' it will expand and 'format' contract.
The result is fairly intuitive but puts things in slightly different places than where you might have come to expect them from older versions.
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Thanks Ross,
I have OpenOffice and am unlikely to come across MSOffice of my own free will.
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Unfortunately (or luckily for some), the Microsoft interface initiatives (as well as Apple even to the higher degree) are extremely contagious. So, it's highly probable that quite soon we'll see this kind of interface everywhere (including OpenOffice). Unless Apple will step forward with ribbon killing interface concept in the near future. :rolleyes: :D
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..extremely contagious. So, it's highly probable that quite soon we'll see this kind of interface everywhere
aha! extremely huh??
So - RUI for Xtreme 5 ?? ;)
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sledger
aha! extremely huh??
So - RUI for Xtreme 5 ?? ;)
No. No way. :rolleyes:
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Ribbon in Xtreme 5: this is exactly what I'm suggesting! :)
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covoxer
No. No way. :rolleyes:
The ribbon bar is already outdated. MS now says that Windows 8 will have one big 10cm square icon in the middle of the screen. They say it's yet another example of innovative thinking from MS! :p
No, really!!! ;)
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covoxer
:D indeed. :rolleyes:
And the sad part is that the MS Mega fanboys would obediently line up to spout the praises of the latest marketing gimmick that bears little resemblence to actually needed features.
'Ribbon bars' indeed. If I I had a quarter for every time MS claimed to come out with some useless marketing speak. :rolleyes:
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Isn't this a free forum?
Isn't people free to have different tastes?
Nooo, they are "fanboys".
Bah!
For me the discussion i closed, there was absolutely no need to get rude.
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I agree..
Improv, you came into the discussion diss'ing Giovanni's point of view, you then commented that you couldn't be bothered to continue indicating you would not comment further, yet you came back with three more posts each one becoming a little more baiting.
One more and you will receive an infraction.
Thanks
Steve
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those that decry are 'antifanboys' - no different to a fanboy except they come from the other direction, if they but knew it ;)
make themselves look just as silly....
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sledger
I agree..
Improv, you came into the discussion diss'ing Giovanni's point of view, you then
commented that you couldn't be bothered to continue indicating you would not comment further, yet you came back with three more posts each one becoming a little more baiting.
One more and you will receive an infraction.
Thanks
Steve
Yes,yes, we must all tow toe the company line and never ever say any thing that may differ from the acceptable conformity of corporate life.
Be as anal retentive as you want, do what you want-I really don't care.
BTW-It's interesting that Giovanni IMMEDIATELY assumed that the 'fanboy' reference was aimed at him when it was a general comment.
What a waste of time this place is.
:rolleyes:
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Improv
Yes,yes, we must all tow toe the company line and never ever say any thing that may differ from the acceptable conformity of corporate life.
Be as anal retentive as you want, do what you want-I really don't care.
BTW-It's interesting that Giovanni IMMEDIATELY assumed that the 'fanboy' reference was aimed at him when it was a general comment.
What a waste of time this place is.
:rolleyes:
it was a general, unfounded, unsupported bitch - I have no objection to that as you are entitled to your opinion, but you will need to take the feedback good or bad just like everyone else ;)
and you do not need to waste your time here - you could do it somewhere else I suppose.... ?
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handrawn
it was a general, unfounded, unsupported bitch - I have no objection to that as you are entitled to your opinion, but you will need to take the feedback good or bad just like everyone else ;)
and you do not need to waste your time here - you could do it somewhere else I suppose.... ?
None of your bloody business either way. So I suggest that you MYOB.
Whatever! :rolleyes: I really don't care either way after the fascist moderation policies on these forums. :rolleyes:
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ah MR none rude speaks :p
its an open forum - as Giovanni said - have I been rude to you?
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Thank you Improv - you just made it easier.
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sledger
Thank you Improv - you just made it easier.
Do what you want and ban me now, that's what you want to do anyway.
The only reason that you even wanted to be Moderator was the fascist ego trip that gets you off.
Go ahead BAN ME I DARE YOU!
You don't have the balls to let me remain a member.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Improv
Go ahead BAN ME I DARE YOU!
OK Done. You have a 7 day cooling off period.
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Ah, so that's how you get banned.
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I agree somewhat with Covoxer's reply on the first page: as far as I had understood, Office 2007 was supposed to make it easier for you to access virtually everything without having to go into menu/submenu or dialogbox/subdialogbox.
It does make a lot of functions accessible, and the ribbon is pretty intuitive. But I still find myself opening the dialog boxes (by clicking on the small arrows on the ribbon bar) in order to access a subfunction that is not present on the ribbon itself :\
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I find that after years of using the standard toolbar and submenus that the ribbon bar actually makes finding things much harder. :rolleyes:
However, if I actually used Office 2007 more than once or twice a year it may improve my retention of where things are on the ribbon bar. :D
I usually open Office 2003 because I know where the things I need are located. ;)
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Long time user of most versions of office and I find the ribbon bar somewhat confusing. Not to mention that under the 'old' menu choices, you didn't need to move the mouse more than an inch or two between menus and dropdowns - but the ribbon may require you to move across the entire (wide)screen for an option. (if you can find it). When I first saw it, I thought it was 'nice', but the first time I couldn't find something I knew where it was in the old - it became frustrating. I have been using it for quite some time here at work and home, and I've gotten better, but if I had my way, the old system would be back. Just my 2 cents worth...
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Why is there no UI option (ribbon/traditional)?
Saludos,
Bob.
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Bob, everyone would opt for the traditional menus. ;)
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I understand your arguments on ribbon interface; it's quite different from what we are accustomed, and sometimes finding a button is hard; but is all matter of practice.
About this, I see that traditional menus are still used in 99% of applications, so people cannot get the hang of the ribbon if so many apps don't have it.
After all maybe what I like most is the visual refresh to the same legacy features, and big icons that are easier to click.
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Giovanni
..... and big icons that are easier to click.
And as said earlier take up a lot more space on the screen. With new screens being 16:9 instead of the old 4:3, most screens are actually shorter in pixels than the old ones were. So taking up more space with the toolbar, doesn't make a great deal of sense. Writing letters/documents is normally done on a portrait orientated sheet. In some respects, it would make more sense for "Word's" toolbar to be down the side .......
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I perfectly agree with you SS-Kalm.
I keep the ribbon hidden per default and activate it with a click when I need it; using a 16:9 laptop screen real estate is very important to me.
After all, the click I do to activate the ribbon is the same I would do to open a menu. ;)