backgrounds (again)

How do I create a background like the one shown on this site here:

http://www.dotmailer.com/digital_marketing/

I try creating a large bitmap image 1900x2000 pixels , importing it from Xtreme, deleting it, then going to galleries, and selecting it as the background. It works fine if I just do a simple colour background with a linear graduated fill, but when I try and incorporate any graphics into it, the image appears to 'restart' from the left hand side of the webpage when viewed in my browser of the preview window. It also creates a lined border from the left hand side of the page too.

Is there a way of creating an untiled background in Web Designer, with one graphic? What dimensions should this be?

You don't need untiled background for this example. You actually don't need a background image at all. Simply make the background graphics to be a part of your page. That's it.
Example attached.

Oh, ok. What size of page is the ideal size to enable viewing in the majority of browsers and monitors?

John - That is not the same thing. The page Stuart linked to has a band of pattern that tiles across the top of the screen. On my 24" monitor the pattern continuously repeats.

I think what might work is to create a repeating tile that is much deeper than the actual page size. Maybe twice as deep as you expect your page to go. Apply this tile to your page (via the Bitmap Gallery > Background). The page will lengthen to accommodate the depth of the background image.

Adjust your page to the depth necessary.

Bu Stuart was asking for non tiling background? :confused:

Yes. Actually I've got fed up of trying to make one due to the problems this is causing me. I'm about to buy a stock vector graphic from 123RF, which will be a high res eps file. Could I use this as a background? Would it work without getting all messed up by Xara? If its a large file, would this slow down the loading of pages or is there a way round this.

John - OK. But to achieve what Stuart wants, I tiling background is probably the best solution.

Stuart - You will have to convert the eps file to a bitmap and so that will determine the file size.

No problem then. :)

Right I've bought the graphic which looks great. Its the skyline of London. I want this to go across the background, so it disappears behind one side of the page and comes out of the other. I create a page size of 1830 x 1000, and split the image so it would look continuous, i.e. in the middle there is a gap for the webpage to sit so I don't lose any of the skyline image features. I test it by copying the webpage over so that I know its all measured up right. I group this all together and export it to WD as a bitmap. I select it as the background and preview it in the browser. AND IT COMES OUT ALL TILED AGAIN, NOT EVEN TILED CENTRALLY SO IT MIGHT LOOK SLIGHTLY DECENT, ALL THE MEASUREMENTS ARE MESSED UP, IT LOOKS CRAP, FOR GODS SAKE SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!

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Originally Posted by stuart1980

Right I've bought the graphic which looks great. Its the skyline of London. I want this to go across the background, so it disappears behind one side of the page and comes out of the other. I create a page size of 1830 x 1000, and split the image so it would look continuous, i.e. in the middle there is a gap for the webpage to sit so I don't lose any of the skyline image features. I test it by copying the webpage over so that I know its all measured up right. I group this all together and export it to WD as a bitmap. I select it as the background and preview it in the browser. AND IT COMES OUT ALL TILED AGAIN, NOT EVEN TILED CENTRALLY SO IT MIGHT LOOK SLIGHTLY DECENT, ALL THE MEASUREMENTS ARE MESSED UP, IT LOOKS CRAP, FOR GODS SAKE SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!

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I love the effect of ALL CAPS at the end to really accentuate the need to yell :) I do it myself all the time.

Can you upload the .web file so we can see & test it?

Maybe we'll see something you missed.

I guess I know what you want to achieve.
The background tile is aligned by the left top corner of your page. So the background image has to start from there. The background to the left has to be the right end of your background image.
It's easier to show than to explain. See the attached example. :)

Thanks - here

Heres how I want it to look, with the black bit representing my webpage.

Oh look you get a free stock graphic too!

Try this one. :)

Wow - still can't figure out how you did it but you just saved my day. Thanks a lot, your the man!

Here.

Thanks again. I was on the verge of tearing out a bleeding clod of my hair and scalp.

As all things Xara, there's more than one way to skin a cat. I noticed that unlike Ross in either FF or IE the background never repeated, even if I dragged it across 2 19" monitors. The background image of the site you first mentioned can be viewed HERE

It would appear from the source file, that this background image is placed in table but I could be wrong, I'm rubbish at html.

Anyway here's my solution to the problem. It involves both a skyline layer and a linear graduation bitmap for the background.

|In the process I've messed up you MouseOff/MouseOver layers having grouped them, but you can easily delete them and paste in your originals if required.

A word of caution here Stuart. If your background is a stock image I don't you should be distributing it here. You've purchased the right to use it but not to distribute it freely to all visitors to this site.

Perhaps it would be prudent once your problem's been resolved, to remove the stock vector?

Thanks Egg. I really want the background to appear as in Covoxers file, but I guess I'll have to resort to yours (which looks great too) if I can't get it working.

Covoxers background was working when I previewed it in FF, but now its not working in IE or the Xara preview window. Why is this so difficult, and where am I going wrong?

I am having kinda the same situation I have a graphic that is 2000 by 1500 and I want it as the background of a template from XWD can this be done and how do I import it to the fill galleries so I can choose as background.

Can someone help
elevatorman

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Originally Posted by elevatorman

I am having kinda the same situation I have a graphic that is 2000 by 1500 and I want it as the background of a template from XWD can this be done and how do I import it to the fill galleries so I can choose as background.

Can someone help
elevatorman

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Any image imported to WD appears in the Bitmap gallery. And any image in the Bitmap Gallery can be set as a background of your page.