I was able to successfully add a NavBar from MenuMaker into Web Designer.....
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I was able to successfully add a NavBar from MenuMaker into Web Designer.....
thank you for your instruction.......it saved me :) thanksss
Very good information BQ.
I've added a few tags to your thread to hopefully make it easy to find when doing a search.
Afensol, you are very welcome. Glad it helped.
Bill, thanks for adding the tags.
Menu maker has been collecting dust in my computer.
Not anymore with my new web designer:D
Since the procedure for drop-down nav bars in XWD is so messy, I am getting much better results by creating menus in Webstyle and simply inserting in XWD as described below.
A menu maker/ Webstyle type of facility integrated within XWD would be a great improvement.
Rick
As long as we can then edit the individual elements like the one's supplied with XWD then some sort of menu maker would be great.
Xara already has a great menu maker in Menu Maker and Webstyle. If this could be integrated in XWD in a similar way it already integrates with Dreamweaver it would be great.
Dreaming....Create a placeholder in XWD, right click, select "Create Menu in Webstyle" (or Menu Maker). To edit menu, right click on the menu placeholder in XWD, and Menu Maker/Webstyle opens, edit the menu, click save, Menu Maker/Webstyle closes, and the menu is changed within XWD. Alternatively, a similar menu maker could be fully integrated in XWD.
In my opinion this would be far preferable to the existing way of trying to make a complex menu in XWD.
Rick
Thanks John
Hi - I have no problems importing a menu bar from Webstyle using the method suggested in BQ's post of 8th March but I cannot import functional sub menus. Am I missing additional script or would anyone provide some guidance - any assistance much appreciated - from a learner - Bruce
Hello Bruce,
Welcome to Talkgraphics.
The two attached .zip files contain a Web Designer .web file for a test page using a Webstyle menu with dropdowns and the Webstyle project that created the dropdown menu.
In the Webstyle project I created the menu and had the graphics saved in a subfolder named graphics.
In Web Designer I made a test page and put in a placeholder object where the menu will be. I copied the line from the Webstyle .htm file to put in the placeholder. I copied the xaramenu.js file from the webstyle created folder to the Web Designer created folder. I also copied the graphics subfolder.
Hello,
I've tried adding my menu from menu maker into XWD as shown in the first post, but can't get it to appear for some reason.
I'm using the trial version of MM - could this have anything to do with it?
Thanks
Warren
Hi Warren,
Welcome to Talkgraphics.
The trial version is fully functional. All features work, after the trial period ends the program will not start if you have not entered an unlock code you receive when you purchase.
In addition to copy and paste the line of code you also must copy the files from the MenuMaker created folder to the Web Designer created folder.
Thanks Bill.
Still can't get it to work.
All the files were saved in the same folder where the index.web file resides. I've not exported to an html file yet - do I need to do that first?
Frustration reigns with this - I've been screwing around with this for over an hour. I'm sure there is something pretty basic I'm missing here...
Warren in Web Designer export to website. Until you do that a temporary location is used so your MenuMaker files will not be present.
Once you have the folder set by exporting you can then copy the MenuMaker files to that folder. Further export and preview will use your export folder so all updates will be in the correct folder.
I saw in the Menu Maker forum that you need to use the entire line in Dreamweaver:
<script src="xaramenu.js"></script><script menumaker src="menu_.js"></script>
I noticed in the first post of this thread that it's only supposed to be:
<script menumaker src="menu_.js"></script>
I've tried both without success... :(
Warren are you making a placeholder object in Web Designer?
The attached image is a collage representing a workflow I used just now.
1. MenuMaker used to create a navbar and saved to a folder.
2. Web Designer used to create a test page with a placeholder object.
3. Exported test page to a folder.
4. Copy the folder from the MenuMaker saved navbar project to the Web Designer folder for the test page.
5. Copy the line from the MenuMaker created .htm file for the script tag and path to the files and paste into the Placeholder tab for the website properties for the placeholder object.
6. Preview the website.
The attached .zip file contains the folder for my Web Designer test page. The .web file is also there along with the menumaker files in the graphics subfolder.
Open the .web file and examine the placeholder object and the website properties.
You need to make sure the path to the navbar files is exactly correct. I found the neatest way is to put all the files inside a "navbar" folder, and put this folder inside the "index_htm_files" folder created by XWD.
So my typical script from Webstyle inside the HTML box on the placeholder is like this:
<script Webstyle4 src="index_htm_files/hnavbar/graphics/horiz_navbar.js"></script>
It works perfectly every time and is definately the best way to put a drop-down navbar in XWD at the moment (in my opinion!)
Rick
Many thanks Bill - I'm just catching up after a couple of days away. I appreciate your response and guidance.
I tried the exact same thing and nothing shows up.
I'm not sure if I totally understand about the copying of the Menumaker file into the Index Html folder. I tried that and still nothing shows up...
here's the file if anyone wants to take a peek. It shows the menu script in the html code...
My feeling is that I'm not getting how to get the menu maker file(s) into the proper place. It's such a mess of files and terms! This is why I'm a jeweler and not a web designer.
Looking at your placeholder text the javascript files created by Menu Maker should be in the same folder with your Web Designer created htm file.
The graphic files probably should be in that same folder unless you specified another folder when you saved you menu while still in Menu Maker.
what Bill says.....save menu maker and web designer files in same folder.
YES, Thank you for the great visual, that's how I learn.
Now, I've checked to see if the button Html works fine which it does as a stand alone when I double click it for browser preview.
However when it's combined with the rest of the website, the mouse over colors and the drop down sub menus don't work. All the files are there.
I'm confused now although happy I got them to show up. That was a GREAT TIP...Many Thanks!
Mark
Have you actually Exported the website to the folder where you MenuMaker files are located?
Did you assign links to your buttons and submenus in MenuMaker? You will need to do that for the navbar/menus to work.
I have all the files in that zipped folder part of the overall folder where I've been exporting the website in progress so if I understand your question properly, it's all in the same general folder.
Why would the browser preview work of the nav bar/buttons. I do not have the links and pages assigned to the buttons yet.
That's another task to wrap my brain around.
I misunderstood your previous post. I thought your buttons were not working or showing in the browser preview.
The navbar and menus show in the browser preview and look good.
I think we're getting closer her for sure, thanks to you Bill and the others that have chimed in...
Here's a pic of the overall file structure. Hopefully I have illustrated my overall problem well.
When clicking on the PPJ Button (Firefox Icon file) it does a browser preview of the Menu Maker Nav Bar and all the drop down menus I did. It even calls up the pages that were assigned (Still working on finishing that).
But when I go to say page 2 of the website and try to click on the nav bar from within the site preview, the navbar is dead.
I've exported the most current nav bar settings into the master file, and when I'm ready to preview, I double click on the index icon to see how it all is laying out.
Hope my rambling is making sense, I can smell it now, we're getting closer!
Thanks heaps!
DJ,
It appears that you renamed the files that were created by Menu Maker. If so, that would be one of your problems.
It also looks like some of my layer management had gotten sloppy, perhaps it was being hidden from something from above.
Let's hope it keeps working!
Thank you all for the great tips. This is a fantastic forum, quite impressed so far.
Mark
Bill - many thanks for the Zipped files and guidance - I worked through everything and located my problem.
I now have multi level Webbstyle Nav Bars working ok, but the challenge is to work on my own designs.
I did attach a PDF file to a Webstyle Nav Bar but after several tries, found that I had to upload the site before it became active.
I would now like to change the colors of the website page scroll bar which is easy in HTML but I so far I am unable to make any of the available scripts work using the placeholder system. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thak you again for your kind help - much appreciated.
Bruce have you tried using your scrollbar colour code in the .css file rather than within a placeholder?
The default.css file is in the index_htm_files foler, assuming you are using index.htm as the filename of your primary page.
You can use any plain text editor like notepad to edit the css file.
ScrollBar Generator
(I haven't tried intergrating this in WD as this isn't W3c compliant as far as I know)
Remember that all non-IE based browsers do not support the CSS scrollbar property attributes.
So coloring them will only be seen in IE (proprietary markup).
On a different note...
Is there a way I can control the direction of the drop down sub menu's?
I'm getting a submenu going off the page. Looks like there's a justify button but on my program, it's not selectable.
Here's a pic to illustrate
Is your menu maker nav bar code set in a placeholder?
If so, does the placeholder extend past the page boundary in WD?
I don't have Menu Maker so cannot test this.
Perhaps you could attach your .web file?
See also my post in the other thread regarding your drop down menus
http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthre...=36835&page=13
Now I'm having trouble! I've created a nav bar in WebStyle, saved everything in the root folder (left image) then created the place holder (right image) but nothing is showing. What stupid thing am I overlooking?
Nicky (hope that's your name:)
I had a similar thing happen,
Check what layer your placeholder is...I had mine on the mouse down layer...DOH!!!
Or create a new layer that's at the top of the heap and set that for your repeating objects...I was so frustrated when I learned that I was doing something so silly.
Hope it's something easy like that for ya, I can see how one can burn hours on web design but it's sure fun!
I've been called worse! lol!Quote:
Nicky (hope that's your name)
Thank you. I get stuck over the simplest things, I had the placeholder on the MouseOver layer.. What was that about DOH!?Quote:
Check what layer your placeholder is...I had mine on the mouse down layer...DOH!!!
... moving swiftly on.... *whistles*...
Yeah!!!
I finally offered something of use here finally instead of all the questions that I have...
So what is your name, I just guessed based on your user name.
I've got a TON to learn about this stuff but I do love to use MenuMaker.
Seems as if it would be nice to have that sort of plugin type useability here in WD. I'm not interested in trying to create all that stuff from scratch as that's over my current level of Xtreme knowledge.