Perhaps you should be looking at an alternative such as FireFox?
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/
Check out
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7784908.stm
in any event.
Paul
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Perhaps you should be looking at an alternative such as FireFox?
http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/firefox/
Check out
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7784908.stm
in any event.
Paul
Not a complaint or such.
But at least MS shows their security issues at plain sight, http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec...ry/961051.mspx
Same issues are in FF also,they only show something is fixed http://www.mozilla.org/security/know...firefox30.html
Hans
Fair comment.
FF? No thanks. I downloaded the fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by pauland
You seem very hostile towards FF Hans.
I have both on my system but use IE because it loads faster:eek:
What do you mean by hostile??
I'm not against FF but dislike the self-proclaimed superiority of open-source software.
They also have issues with security and bugs.
But you never hear of them,because it isn't broad-casted,while if there's a minor glitch in ms software the whole world's on fire.
I'm not using IE directly myself,just a shell-browser around it(slimbrowser)
Hans
"FF? No thanks." didn't seem to indicate much enthusiasm!Quote:
Originally Posted by haakoo
That would amount to a lot of 'self-proclaimers' :pQuote:
Originally Posted by haakoo
I think it's the FF fanbois who are claiming to be superior by choosing FF.
Mozilla org just get on with it.
Personally I've attached myself to Google chrome for it's simplicity and sheer speed.
Before the advent of Chrome, Opera was my browser of choice.
(Now... If I could only switch off animated figs and flash in chrome :mad:)
Paul,The "FF no thanks" wasn't from me but the Alien.
Steve,you're right about the self-proclaiming,it's done by the fans
It was just a statement about open source software being better then payed software,which isn't in many cases,the case.
I do use chrome and find it very fast but lacking a lot of features.
Not to be promoting the flashpeak slimbrowser but it has many features to filter out animations,scripts and put sites on blacklists with just a click
http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/
The best thing I like is the group feature:
Open your news sites for example and save it as a group.
Now have the browser startup with the group and it opens up all your sites at once,you only have to tab through them.
You can have as many groups as you want.
Another great thing is the auto login.
I have the browser setup to clear the cache after closing,so every time I startup the browser all logins are lost but you can create a fav with the auto-login so you don't need to type in your user-name and password again
Hans
Which is why I like it. Features bleachers, (AKA The Bloat Boat) who needs 'em ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by haakoo
(personal opinion of course)
Sorry, Hans!Quote:
Originally Posted by haakoo
Steve,
Thought you wanted the features to block out certain things on sites
You can't have it both ways,have a bloated app with many features
or a lean app with less features ,it would effect the usage in both ways.
Seems the devs should look into it to make it happen
Paul,I sometimes feel alienated but not an or the Alien:D
Hans
No, not hostile. I just prefer IE (actually, I prefer Maxthon which is a shell around IE) over FF, because I find working with it more fluent :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pauland
The negativity in my post was because I find it a little bit overreacting when, after a security issue in IE, everyone starts running around screaming "Ohnoes!1" and saying that IE users should switch to whatever browser (usually it's FF though) they use. Especially when the issue is quickly solved by MS with a simple patch.
Hans said it too:
I feel that these people (not directed against you, personally; lots of people have done this) are only trying to force their browser upon IE users.Quote:
while if there's a minor glitch in ms software the whole world's on fire.
I prefer to let my own experiences guide my choices ;)
I came across the warning on the BBC News website by accident, so my post was more a public information thing. The BBC article didn't mention other browsers besides IE as being vulnerable and the advice was to use another browser until the problem was resolved. FF is the next most popular (on PC anyway). I'm not forcing FF on anyone.
A lot of people just seem to think "web browser=Internet Explorer" so it does no harm to give FF or any other browser a heads-up particularly when that is the industry advice.
Do I like IE? No. Probably because I'm sick of my teenagers ending up with all sorts of unwanted toolbar nonsense installing itself onto IE and being almost impossible to remove. In the web development community I think most people use FF and run IE for testing/compatibility purposes.
I'm not particularly flying the flag for open-source (I was cynical about Xara going open-source, perhaps with justification), but I do like a bit of diversity and support for the underdog.
Paul
Not looking for an argument Hans. Just my opinion mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by haakoo
No you didn't. You came here for an argument.
Look, an argument isn't just saying no it isn't.
Can be! I'm not allow to argue unless you've paid. ;)
A little Monty Python humor, I just couldn't resist. :D
As a designer and developer, and not an open source one at that, I prefer FF. I do use IE, but mostly for testing as Paul mentioned. There are major differences between the two.
FF is slower to load, but runs faster in use for me. I do want to test some alternatives like Chrome, but there isn't enough time in my day lately.
I've had quite a bit of demand pointing me toward open source from my client base. Not just open source for the sake of open source, they want development on platforms such as Wordpress, etc. People are getting more sophisticated and can envision a world with a dimished MS.
I do agree that Open Source doesn't equal better. But neither does a world dominated by MS. I don't wish for MS go away like some. I think they are important overall. But, I like many players in the game. It keeps things fresh! ;)
Well said ! That's biodiversity.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedWombat
ivan
IE vs Firefox? The only superior feature in firefox for me is firebug. Very very handy in web development and I use it often. That's enough for me to use FF concurrently.
Otherwise IE is convenient; it loads quickly and has never compromised my computer in any way.
Google chrome looks great and i use it sometimes but interface is all icons. I prefer menus. Its properties options panel features only about 6 changes i can make, none of them relevant. Too unconfigurable for me.
Safari is made by apple. I'm not religious so I don't go there.
So, most of the time I just use IE without thinking about it. I surf, therefore I am...
Merry Christmas everyone and I hope this New Year will go ok for you all.
Q
Personally I wouldn't consider toggling the password manager as non-relevant? Or enabling malware protection?Quote:
Originally Posted by qmr
What about how cookies are handled or quick access to your internet proxy settings (inc other privacy options)? How about choosing your favorite default search engine or home page? Where to save downloads? Maybe setting the right language for the spell-checker? Pop-up blocking? Denying insecure content?
Is none of this relevant?
Aside from my already mentioned flash'n'figs thing, I'm happy with Chrome's light feature list and UI.
One of the design points of the chrome browser was that you should not notice it's even there.
And it succeeds. It's fast, does the job very well has all the basic features of any browser plus some unique ones of it's own (eg: Web Application Shortcuts) and dynamic resizeable form fields (I love that feature!).
It's searchable history is in my opinion is the best of the bunch.
So presumably the content is what should be important to you rather than the browser furniture, theming, added toolbars, status bars, extensions, add-ons and search fields, bells whistles, marching band and fireworks display :DQuote:
I surf, therefore I am...
I acknowledge however that the choice of which web browser to use is a personal thing, much like how you might arrange your desktop/icons and which Windows XP or Vista style you might choose. :)
Thanks for the Xmas & New Year wishes qmr. All the best to you and yours in NZ from FNQ AU http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
Why do I get a security warning when I use Google Chrome? I want to be safe.
Ron, what kind of security warning?
Paul
It says "Your browser isn't fully supported. You're using the application on your own risk." It happens when I log into my email account at Inbox.com.
It just means that they've tested the Inbox.com software against various browsers and chrome isn't one of them and they don't guarantee that their software will work with it.
It's not really a security issue. I would try it and see if it works OK and if it does, I'd carry on using it or otherwise use another browser for Inbox.com.
Paul
Ok. Thanks Paul.
I live in FF simply because I develop a lot of sites.
I probably have more browser installed than any other software. :eek:
IE 5-6-7-8, FF 2-3, Opera, Chrome, Flock, etc..
Speed and security I recommend Chrome.
You can always check your browser security issues at Secunia http://secunia.com/advisories/search/ . "Or anything else"
I'm so used to all my add-ons in FF I'll stick with it.