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Sockxpert.com - Stock Images. Yours?
One of the frustrating aspects of creating art is how do you make any money from your talent. One way to do this is to license your images as Stock Images. The way a stock agency works is fairly straightforward. They act as your agent and present your images on a website to the public (this includes graphic design companies and advertising agencies). You retain ownership and the copyrights to your images. The stock photo agent sells a license for a specified use to the client to use your image. When a use of your image is negotiated, you get a fee the stock image company gets a percentage of that fee. In return for the fee the stock agent receives, you get exposure to a large audience. It is up to the stock agency to build traffic. The more traffic they direct to the site, the more sales they make, etc.
Chris Dickman, who heads up Graphics.com (and was the founder of i/us.com which became TalkGraphics.com) passed this opportunity along to me.
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I wanted to encourage the Xara community to submit their images to our
Stockxpert.com microstock site. There's quite a few illustrations on there now and I think the Xara folks could make some sales. I was discussing this with one of the Stockxpert people and he encouraged me to make the suggestion.
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This link is on the Graphics.com website and features one of the artists who markets his images on Stockxpert.com.
And as a reminder for those who are not familiar with Graphics.com, Chris has a series of Galleries where people can show their work, including The Xara Gallery. The site and galleries are free and you might see some familiar work already there. :)
Gary
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Great news Gary. Thank you for telling us about it. I just signed up. I might even make a few bucks from this. ;)
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What format do they need to be in? I guess I have to go check out the site.:)
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Sometimes I use such websites like Stockxpert.com or fotolia.com to buy photos for 1-2 Euros per image. That's bad enough, isn't it? Because from the side of the artist it's a shame to get 1 EUR (or sometimes only 50% from it) for a drawing which costs hours and hours to finish.
Yes, I know these "success stories" out there, which says that artist are able to sell more images than ever through such 1 EUR websites. But who wrote these "success stories"? And how much images do you have to sell, in order to get a adequate payment? Professional customers are willing to pay 1000-1500 EUR for a illustration and not 1 EUR...
Remi
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I've bought a few images from istockphoto.com. Although the artist may not get much per image, there's always a chance to have the image sold many times over.
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Remi
You still own the image and the copyrights. So you are not selling the image, you are renting it.
Gary
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I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but if you rent it, lease it whatever it is no longer an "Original" and thus the value is immediately less...:)
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I really like this idea.... Thanks Priester!!!! The way I see it folks is this.... That image is not making any $$$ sittin on your pc or here.... so "anything" is better than nothing??!! just my opinion
I think it would motivate to make even more to submit once the reality sets in on the potential $$ Not that it would be a sole source of income but... once you get a few extra bucks in your pocket through this.... (lets face it, a buck is a buck these days) it may just give some of us even more motivation to create
I like the opportunity.
John, you could place items here, and get some $$ from people ordering "prints".... I would think that once someone bought the original, you could make it not available??
This would also direct more and more people to your work.... hence.... more potential purchasers!!!! SOmeone may order the "print" and then decide they want to contact yo to buy the original.
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The low price is the problem. They don't accept simple drawings/images for their service, it must be a really good image instead. And a good image needs a lot of time and experience. If a customer would ask me, if he could use (license) this "valuable" image for his website for 1-3 EUR, I wouldn't agree with such a request. If 50 customers would ask the same, so the result is 50-150 EUR, I would say "no", again. So, how much customers have to be interested in my image, before I say "ok"? It depends on the "value" of the image. But on the other side: If the image isn't worth a higher price, because it's a poor image, then you wouldn't find 50 customer who are willing to pay license fees for this image. And if the image is so good, that a lot of customers want it, the price must be 150 EUR per license or more (that's the price, you'll pay for images from other image databases and not 1-3 EUR).
Remi
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Hi guys!
My name is Steve Kapsinow, and I'm in charge of community development over at Stockxpert. I've worked with Chris Dickman for a few years now, and I'm happy to see a thread over here on contributing Xara-based work to Stockxpert. Thanks, Gary!
I'm glad some of you are interested in giving it a shot.
To answer a couple of questions. Yes. You can remove the work at any time. So, if you sell the original, you can remove it from our site. Although you cannot ask the people who have already downloaded it to "give it back."
geminiguy is right. Contributors do use microstock sites as a way to market their work. We recently published an interview with a stockxpert contributor who intead of selling the exclusive rights to one of him images, worked with the customer to make original work.
http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?...icle&artid=564
Riches are not guaranteed to everyone, but the potential to earn decent money exists. It's just another avenue to distribute and market your work.
Let me know if you have any more questions or comments. I'd be happy to discuss further.
Thanks!
-Steve
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Thanks Steve for the inside info...
Paul... I don't even put my good shots on my own site... Most of my good ones have never even been printed yet. I want to value to be as high as I can get it. A cambells soup can label can be considered art, but not there are not many fools out there that will pay for the label itself... Too much market saturation ruins the value.
Most folks see a pretty pic and just download it and print it. I wonder how many copies of SaraX there are printed out?:rolleyes: :)
I might just submit a pic or two... but nothing large enough to print...:)
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I haven't been to the stock expert site. I have bought photographs from istockphoto, but only for use on websites, so they're only low resolution.
I can understand why you would want to protect your work.
Paul
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Absolutely... I completely understand John's perspective. But even just throwin a few shots on (will become addictive once a couple bucks starts poppin in here n there) Hey, these days... if ya can make $10.00 extra bucks a week?? Doing somethin ya love?? Im all for that!!!!
Not to mention the advertising, and directing a broader range toward your "original stuff"
(No John, I didn't say "directing broads to your stuff"....):D
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These sites are a dime a dozen...
The only one that makes any real money is the person that runs the site = a penny here, and a penny there, adds up to real money.
1 credit = $1 = 1 download. (or $3 for one download = equally pathetic.) You have to sell your image 50 times (on the worst scenario) to see a single penny. Sell it 46 times and you don't see a single cent (unless of course you buy your own image yourself 4 times... :rolleyes: ) Collect your money at $50 but sell only another 40 (those 40 sales generates nothing for you).
Browse around the site and find similar works to yours and see how many downloads they have, to see what kind of return you might expect (on the best possible scenario). Have a look yourself...
As mentioned before - if you make nothing now, why not make nothing at a site like this + plus have your image perhaps generate a few downloads (and a few bucks) for the owner of the site? Remember - you have to sell $50 worth to get any rewards.
The business model here is volume for the people that run the site - nothing more. Check back in a year everyone that signed up, and give us a tally... Also, take "testimonials" with a huge "nip" of salt... Buy any ebook on web promotion to see how to use it...
Had this thread been started by a new member - it would have been deleted together with the other 20 of these "offers" already.
This thread also has nothing to with Xara products - I'm moving the thread.
In general, Talkgraphics is for member to discuss what they see fit - it's not free ad space for web developers to promote their services and products = Steve, any futher posts here by you will be deleted - or the whole thread will go.
Again, this forum is for graphics interested members - not for free ad space for web developers.
Everyone else - feel free to discuss!
Risto
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SORRY! HUGE CLARIFICATION!
As per the site:
The first is on a pay per download basis. We think you should be treated fairly so that is why we pay out 50% after each download
Sorry, you only get a half on the dollar... (Silly me) :o You have to sell your image 100 times to collect on the low resolution scale. The basic concept of "collecting/math" is the same though - just make it $0.5... Instead of the full dollar, as per the previous post.
So, if you "only" :rolleyes: sell 95 copies... You have to spend $10 (to buy it 5 times yourself) of your own money to collect your $50 - sorry - $40...
Sorry...
Risto
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Risto,
Sorry if my post is construed as advertising. I only added to points already raised.
If you would like to delete my posts, please do. I'm not here to break rules or discuss something people haven't already expressed interest in.
I'm sorry Gary if you got in trouble. Chris D. suggested I post here to introduce myself and answer questions.
This whole thing was started because people in our forums started to discuss how great Xara was, and if people started using it more for their microstock work, it might be a good way to proliferate the application's usage.
Anyway, good luck to everyone in their creative endeavors!
-Steve
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Instead of blindly signing up with this one simply because the link is here. Do a search on Google for "microstock" "micro stock" "microstock site" and "micro stock site" "microstock photography" etc. Research it.
There are many of them, and many pay out better than the one mentioned - some even allow you to price your own work ! :eek:
Even the big two (Getty and Corbis) have their own micro stock sites:
http://www.snapvillage.com (Corbis)
http://www.istockphoto.com (Getty)
As we often see here at TG (not saying that it's necessarily the case with this particular site), if you are in a busy and thriving business, you rarely have time to post or spam on graphics forums, blogs etc. You are actually working on improving your product.
However, for the ones looking in to microsites like this in general: if links are spammed on forums - be sceptical. You don't want to end up wasting your time with a kid sitting in his mom's basement after school. (Again, not necessarily the case with this particular site).
Risto
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Chris Dickman was not able to log onto TG and asked me to post these comment for him.
But before I do, the reason I posted this in the Xara Gallery Forum was for the benefit of the Xara users. Whether or not this is a good way to earn income from your images is for the reader to determine.
Chris Dickman writes:
Risto, I was quite taken aback by the tone of your posts in this thread.
It's clear you're not a fan of the microstock model, but the fact remains
that it's one of the major models now in place for selling creative content.
I asked Gary if he thought it worthwhile bringing this possibility to the
attention of Xara users and he accordingly began this thread. I suggested to
Steve that he make himself available to respond to any questions, which he
kindly did. It's not that common for representatives of major stock content
firms to drop by to offer to respond to questions--by shutting him down, you
deprived forum members the opportunity to learn more about the possibilities
of microstock for their work, which is a shame.
While you might be sceptical of the earning possibilities of microstock in
general, and Stockxpert.com in particular, I'm told that some contributors
to the site generate sales in the thousands each month, with sales in the
hundreds being more typical. It should be kept in mind that for most
contributors, this represents an additional revenue stream. Also worth
keeping in mind is that contributors retain all rights to their images and
site visitors can buy exclusive rights. An illustration was recently
purchased this way for thousands of dollars, after being purchased for
modest amounts over 200 times. Finally, illustrators who post quality,
saleable work generate fresh offers for new work from their exposure on the
site--being visible is critical.
In any case, from my perspective, all venues for getting Xara-created work
in the hands of buyers is worth exploring, an objective I had not
anticipated you would disagree with. I'm on your side!
Regards
Chris Dickman
Graphics.com
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gwpriester
But before I do, the reason I posted this in the Xara Gallery Forum was for the benefit of the Xara users. Whether or not this is a good way to earn income from your images is for the reader to determine.
I agree, hence my post also. The previous one in particular.
Risto
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So, Does this mean "I" didn't do anything wrong either? And, if I "have" been bothersome to any moderators, as stated,I apologize. I just saw this as maybe a good place to get work more exposure..
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Chris,
I must say I don't think, that there are a lot of artists which sells thousands of copies through such sites. I mean, if I would run such a website, I would try to sing the same "marketing songs". We can't control it, but we can say them, that their business model and their license fees are not okay for the artists. It's just not fair.
As for the presence of commercial "community developer" at talkgraphics.com - we have some strict rules for "advertising" by new forum members. I know, it sounds not nice, but coming into a forum as a employer of a commercial website and trying to talk about the "advantages" of this website isn't the best idea...
In the end, our members decides by themself, if they want to use such 1 EUR stocksites or not.
Remi
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geminiguy
So, Does this mean "I" didn't do anything wrong either? And, if I "have" been bothersome to any moderators, as stated,I apologize. I just saw this as maybe a good place to get work more exposure..
As Gary, Remi and I all said - you do as you please. The last (thank you) PM you sent to me, you said that you didn't realize that you only made half-on-the-dollar and nothing if you only sold $49 worth. At least you learned something, eh?
As I said in my last post - research and make up your own mind. Don't sign up to anything simply because a link is posted here on TG.
Risto
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I definitely did learn from it. And I am grateful for yourself and the mods looking our for our best interest. (Im sure there are others who feel the same here)
I don't always pay full attention (partially because Im psycotic) But I am also extremely new to the pc graphics world... and thus, easy prey.
This thread definitely has taught me to pay more attention, and shop around... as well as given excellent advice on choices...
Thank you
I have to add, that I think this entire situation has brought about a very important topic and maybe there could be more set up to assist others like myself from the advice of those in the know??
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Risto
You mention two of the biggest stock image/photo companies Corbis and Getty.
But do you have stock images with either? I don't and I don't know very many people who are at the professional level they demand.
Stockxperts is one company that is more appropriate for the non-professional who wants to license her or his images but does not want to do so on coffee cups and t'shirts.
You are not going to get rich with Stockxperts, but you might sell some images. If you sell a lot of images, let's say you have one or two really popular images, you might make enough to take the wife (or husband, partner, significant other, etc.) out for a meal.
And you might get your work out in front of the public.
If your images happen to sell like hot cakes, then you have a good reason to contact Corbis or Getty and say, hey, I've sold a pile of images on Stockxperts and you should consider taking me on.
As you and I both know, you have to start somewhere.
I do wish this topic would be put back in the Xara forum, where I originally intended it to be posted. But this is your decision and I respect it.
Gary
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gwpriester
You mention two of the biggest stock image/photo companies Corbis and Getty.
But do you have stock images with either? I don't and I don't know very many people who are at the professional level they demand.
I don't think you understand the business model (read my first post)… istockphoto.com and snapvillage.com are micro stock sites owned and operated by Corbis and Getty… The micro stock sites have nothing to do with their main sites.
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gwpriester
Stockxperts is one company that is more appropriate for the non-professional who wants to license her or his images but does not want to do so on coffee cups and t'shirts.
You are joking right? And option to CafePress' mugs and sub-par t-shirts? Did you read my first post at all? Did you visit the sites? I do hope that they see themselves as being cut-above that quality...
As I explained, the money is in the volume and lots of little streams of pennies… Same as with any other micro stock stock site - they need volume to make it work for them, so everyone can sign up!
Again, ALL micro stock sites are OPEN to EVERONE! (Again - even the Corbis and Getty one!) The business model wouldn't work otherwise…
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gwpriester
You are not going to get rich with Stockxperts, but you might sell some images. If you sell a lot of images, let's say you have one or two really popular images, you might make enough to take the wife (or husband, partner, significant other, etc.) out for a meal.
Wow... But if you sell just a little bit short, all you accomplished was to give away your images for free (and generated some income for the people that runs the site).
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gwpriester
And you might get your work out in front of the public.
Well, you could also end up gving it away for free if you don't make the minimum payout level, as "thanks" for that "exposure".
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gwpriester
As you and I both know, you have to start somewhere.
I’m merely suggesting that member do their homework before deciding which site to go with (if they want to take a crack at it) and not just blindly sign up with the one you are currently helping to promote.
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gwpriester
I do wish this topic would be put back in the Xara forum, where I originally intended it to be posted. But this is your decision and I respect it.
Thanks. Sorry, this has nothing to do with Xara products, nor does it belong in the Photoshop of Photography Gallery forum either.
Risto
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Replying to a PM here also, to clarify the "free" part in my last post.
Let's say that all members on TG are active (15,404 members) and we all sell 40 low-res images (at a buck a pop) each on a micro stock site.
This will generate over six-hundred-thousand dollars in sales ($616,160 to be exact). Of this money, how much is paid back to the artists? Answer: ZERO dollars.
You don't get paid anything unless (if) you reach the minimum payout level of $50 (The payout levels vary depending on the site). That's an amazing little plus for this business model. Wouldn't you say?
Don't you think this was a contributing factor to Getty buying istockphoto.com for $50 million in 2005? Yeah, probably...
The example above is of course a pretty bad scenario but it's there to illustrate the business model... Sure, minimum payout levels are common place on the Web. But it doesn’t make it any less beneficial for the people that operate the sites - especially at $50 per person.
Can you think of an equally skewed scenario in "real-life"? You return your empties at the grocery store and they tell that they will pay you nothing unless you return another 10 at later dates... What would you say? Would government agencies look in to it? You better believe it...
Again, as in area of life, if you are good at what you do - you’ll make money. The more desirable your knowledge, skills and work are - the more money you will make. It’s simply a fact of life.
Do some people make some money with micro stock site? I'm sure some do...
I'm not saying that the mentioned micro stock site is any better or worse than the slew of other sites out there. I'm merely suggesting that you to do your research if you are thinking about signing up with one (or a few of them).
That's all.
Risto
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I suspect that many posters here would be happy to sell some of their work for a negligible sum, just as a way of sharing and getting even a little commercial recognition for their work. It's not all about money.
In any event, whose to say what a few images sold for an euro might lead to in terms of more lucrative work? I for one am very grateful that people do allow their work to be sold on these sites.
I am grateful for the debate about the economics of these sites and really do feel the better for it, but I think the agressive tone against these sites is best left out of the forums. The point has been well made.
I'm actually dissapointed by the reception given to the guy from stockxpert. I think that while he did have a personal agenda, he was not from some fly by night operation and many people did actually point out competing sites.
So basically, we're all adults, can form an opinion and not everyone wants to make a big income from their work, but it doesn't mean their selling out in some way.
2p from me.
Paul
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I agree, everyone makes there own choice.
And I have sympathy for Risto as administrator. As I understand it the rules say that we can link to sites we think are useful but we cannot promote them within the forums. There are obvious very good reasons for this, and if exceptions were made, where would it end?
I personally do not want sales pitch here, no matter how well intended it is, or how it is phrased - I'll read it if its linked and interesting, but not here please, we'd end up swamped.
This is not personal to those involved here, its what I believe is healthy for TG.
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Thank you Risto and Remi for pointing out how the business model works. :eek: I think I can make more money promoting my own web site and selling any work from there.:D
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would agree myself
and I'm old-fashioned - select your market first and then design a product for it, not the other way round - but thats maybe just me :D
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pauland
I suspect that many posters here would be happy to sell some of their work for a negligible sum, just as a way of sharing and getting even a little commercial recognition for their work. It's not all about money.
Nobody in this thread disagrees - jump in with both feet if you wish, nobody will stop you! Some (I'm one of them) are merely trying to educate the ones that don't know of how it works, to not go in blind - but to research!
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pauland
In any event, whose to say what a few images sold for an euro might lead to in terms of more lucrative work? I for one am very grateful that people do allow their work to be sold on these sites.
Nobody in this thread disagrees - jump in with both feet if you wish, nobody will stop you! Some (I'm one of them) are merely trying to educate the ones that don't know of how it works, to not go in blind - but to research!
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pauland
I am grateful for the debate about the economics of these sites and really do feel the better for it, but I think the agressive tone against these sites is best left out of the forums. The point has been well made.
The thread didn't belong here in the first place, but as it was viewed and placed on a busy forum - it needed a reality check, and not just a "thumbs up!"
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pauland
I'm actually dissapointed by the reception given to the guy from stockxpert. I think that while he did have a personal agenda, he was not from some fly by night operation and many people did actually point out competing sites.
How about the other 20 micro stock sites, 43 normal stock sites, 109 web developers, 399 pill pushers, 153 hosting services, 68 software companies and the 2093 other business that try push ther products and services here? How about their personal agendas?
My issue is with the promotion of one particluar site - as that's how it started (read post one). Members are free to discuss the pros and cons of any of these sites.
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pauland
So basically, we're all adults, can form an opinion and not everyone wants to make a big income from their work, but it doesn't mean their selling out in some way.
What if I went really crazy one night and revealed that I, together with an old TG Corel Painter and CG member combine our effors on "leftovers" and rake in over $3000 a months from 4 micro stock sites? Of course it's not true... But if it was, would it make a difference? No! I'm merely saying that people should do their homework to understand how it works before committing. And that there are more options that just the one mentioned.
Risto
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Gosh Risto, you're all fired up about this.
I just didn't wan't your take on the evil microsite to be the only one.
I appreciate your points, plus the spam implication about the post.
I think we're all educated now.
The whole thread is rather ironical. Someone suggests that Xara users might wish to sell they're stuff on a bon-fide website and gets jumped upon (at length) because the poster will make some money if the Xara artist sells something.
Makes me smile anyway..
Please don't debate this post - it's not worth it and my last comments aren't serious!
Paul
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pauland
Gosh Risto, you're all fired up about this.
Thank you, I try to take the time for it.
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pauland
I just didn't wan't your take on the evil microsite to be the only one.
I never said, "evil"... Some even rake in over $3000 from these sites... Nothing evil about that...
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pauland
I appreciate your points, plus the spam implication about the post.
Not Spam... Chris Dickman and JupiterMedia would never Spam anyone, nor would Gary. I'm saying that TG is for members - not businesses; and that there are options.
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pauland
I think we're all educated now.
Thanks, glad I could help.
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pauland
Please don't debate this post - it's not worth it and my last comments aren't serious!
Well, I'm commited to it now.. :rolleyes:
Risto
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Gary
Have you considered putting this on the xaraxone [sorry if you already have] - might actually reach a wider xara userbase?
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Risto Klint
... - jump in with both feet if you wish, nobody will stop you!
Risto: You are not in a position to say this. I recall that you have stopped discussions in the past when things said in them didn't agree with what you dictated. You even removed those threads.
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As I said before, this thead would have been nuked off the face of the planet had it been posted by a mere "link-dropper", "spammer" or "web developer".
Looking at my posts here - where am I flawed in regards to my comments on how these web ventures work? Where? :confused:
I dictate nothing here. There are a lot of moderators here and we all pitch in on "what works or not". It's been looked at for some time now.
I have stopped ZERO posts for personal reasons. My personal opinions matter nothing... A few posts have been stopped by myself and other moderators because they simply didn't belong here (as determined by all moderators).
In fact, I have never seen a "hang Risto and his children" thread yet - if I see one - I promise I will get very personal. PMs, emails and anoymous form mail sends about hangings don't count...
As for the content of this thread - talk away - I might even learn something I didn't know - I'll let you know right away, as I have mouths to feed.
Risto
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Risto: You are not in a position to say this. I recall that you have stopped discussions in the past when things said in them didn't agree with what you dictated. You even removed those threads.
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Risto Klint
...I dictate nothing here...
You have done so in the past, by locking and/or eliminating threads you didn't like, and that is why I am saying you are not in a position to make your original comment.
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You have done so in the past, by locking and/or eliminating threads you didn't like,
Yes, threads have been locked or deleted that WE (asked to help out here) didn't think were appropriate, Yes, on occasion threads have been allowed to go a bit longer than they should have (with the hopes that they would correct themselves) but when they didn't - they were removed.
On occasion I have been asked to remove threads that I personally didn't think needed removal. So what? Issues are discussed before acted on!
David, so what about the topic of this thread? What are your thoughts about micro stock sites? It's here to be discussed... Help educate the ones that don't know how it work. Your thoughts?
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Originally Posted by
David O'Neil
and that is why I am saying you are not in a position to make your original comment.
Which comment is that? All my comments has to do with educating the member's that don't know how it works - so they don't get screwed by surprise. How did you help?
Risto
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Re: Sockxpert.com - Stock Images. Yours?
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Originally Posted by
Risto Klint
Which comment is that?
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- jump in with both feet if you wish, nobody will stop you!
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Originally Posted by
Risto Klint
How did you help?
By pointing out to the poster that that is a false comment, and that they sometimes have to watch what they say, or they will be censored, even if it is on the Off-Topic Chat board, where supposedly anything can be discussed civilly. And the threads I am referring to were civil and educational, just as this one is.
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Re: Sockxpert.com - Stock Images. Yours?
David,
Not one word has been "censored" in this thread... :confused:
By all means jump in with both feet - sign-up (with one or a few of them) - let us know how you sold or didn't sell... Please do share! Perhaps we can even compare stats at the end of the year?
Perhaps there can even be a great thread showing which of the slew of micro stock site work the best for vector illustrations? And for what particular theme? Maybe we can even share what micro sites are turning down certain images, because they have enough for that theme... ;) It saves time and effort of TG members, no?
As has been mentioned many times in this thread - please do share your experienced with micro stock sites. Anything that helps TG members is never bad.
As poor (and blunt) as my Swedish-English (Swenglish) is - I'm not "evil! For the tenth time - I'm merely suggesting that you should do your homework so you don't end up giving your work away for free...
Seeing that Gary didn't have a clue about the Corbis and Getty micro sites - even he has something to learn, no? I don't hate or despise him for it (still love him)... We all have something to learn!
What was the other option here? Keeping my mouth shut even though I knew that many TG members will get screwed? Sorry... it will never happen. I'll still be here "trying" to share what I have learned in my web-travels even after I get fed-up committing more time than I really have... ;) ... :p
Again, David, in this thread I have heard nothing from you on your thoughts on Micro Stock Sites. So far you have only complained about myself and a4hire, Albacore, Alcatraz, Availor, Christine Farrelly, Egg Bramhill, gwpriester, remi, Ross Macintosh, simsmj, sledger, Soquil, stlewis, Mike Bailey, Waldkauz...
Seriously, you have never asked yourself why the mods here are vonlunteering their time? It has never crossed your mind that all mods have real lives? We are all here for you... Finding that one file line that makes all thousand of people happy is tricky. Here's a tidbit for you: just because members / lurkers don't post, it doesn't mean they don't care...
With baby spew on my shirt (and a sweaty but wonderfully smelling 2-year-old baby boy asleep on my shoulder) - I bid you good night.
Risto