help with patterns

I create + use patterns frequently in my work. I haven't had the need to create any until recently. I'm not able to "add image to library". This is frustrating because I've done this ad nauseum in the past. The only thing I have changed is that I recently added a 250 gb firewire drive and set it as the scratch disk. At first I thought I had filled up the library I was trying to save the image to, but the new library button is greyed out when I use the open library.

Admittedly, its been a while since I've had the urge or need to create some new patterns, so perhaps I'm forgetting something. I seem to have a vague recollection of this happening to me in the past, although I can't recall if it was with painter iv.5 or x. Ususally I just check out a pattern and modify it or completely erase it and then add image, but even this isn't working. help

I am using painter x, with a dual processor g4.

thanks in advance

In the Patterns Pallet, select the "Capture Pattern" . it will ask you to name it, it will automatically be added to whatever Pattern Library you have open.

Thanks for the reply. I'm really quite familiar with how the whole pattern making works. It seems to have suddenly stopped working + I was wondering if anyone else was having similar problems.

I've been experiencing minor bugs with the program such as the bottom of the layers + channels window buttons not redrawing. I figure Corel was in a rush to get this to market and there were little annoyances they were willing to let slip through + I thought the pattern problem might be one of them. With a program as complex + varied as painter it's got to be difficult to try + cover all the bases.

I'm going to try switching the scratch disk back + see if that makes a difference. Is anybody else out there using another hard drive as a scratch disk?

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Originally Posted by troutB

Is anybody else out there using another hard drive as a scratch disk?

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I'm using an external hard drive for my scratch disk and, so far, no problems.

Also no problems saving Patterns.

I wonder if your Patterns library is just too full. I have a vague memory that I was not able to add custom items to a Painter X library some time in the past. Don't remember which library, though.

Good luck getting this figured out!

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WTF. I opened painter IX + I can capture patterns to my heart's content but not with X. I've switched the scratch disk around + nothing changes in X. Can anyone capture patterns with X? Does anyone from Corel read this forum? I would like to think that I'm really just doing something wrong here, but what does it say that I can capture patterns with IX + not X?

Hi,

Though I'm not able to drag a Layer into the default Painter X Image Portfolio (like several others who have the same problem), I am able to capture a Pattern and save it to the default Painter X Patterns library.

The tutorial below is not specifically for Patterns libraries, but you might be able to apply the principles to your situation.

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A few people in the Corel Painter X newsgroup and in one of the Corel Painter the Official Magazine forums have been talking about a problem dragging image Layers into the Image Portfolio to save the Layers.

The person who asked about this in the Corel Painter Magazine forum happens to also be the person who found the solution.

Since she didn't elaborate and a lot of new users might not understand how to work the solution, I whipped up a tutorial this afternoon and posted it in one of the Corel Painter Magazine forums.

Though I wrote it for people having this problem in Painter X, the tutorial works in earlier versions as well.

If you're not using Painter X, you probably won't have the problem but the tutorial includes instructions for creating a new custom Image Portfolio. That you might want to do one day if you don't already save Layers there for future use.

Maybe a few people here will find it useful, too.

Corel Painter the Official Magazine

Forum Name: Hot tips/ A problem shared

Thread Name: Adding images to image portfolio....



Cheers!

Sorry, I'm not getting how this is supposed to help capture patterns. It's a completely different process. WTF is Corel doing releasing such a buggy program? Are they planning to fix these issues anytime soon?

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Originally Posted by troutB

Sorry, I'm not getting how this is supposed to help capture patterns. It's a completely different process. WTF is Corel doing releasing such a buggy program? Are they planning to fix these issues anytime soon?

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Hi troutB,

Sorry, I had the impression you were more familiar with Painter or I'd have explained earlier. (Or maybe you are, but just didn't have time to read and digest the entire tutorial?)

The ties between the two processes are:

• They both involve libraries (Patterns and Image Portfolio)
• These libraries can both be managed using the Mover utility accessible via the palette menu, either Pattern Mover or Image Mover, depending on the palette.
• In both cases, the user is unable to add a custom item to the library.

If you read my lists of steps, you'll see how the solution might also be applied to the Patterns library and Patterns palette. I say "might be applied" because the fact that we're not able to add Layers to the default Painter X Image Portfolio, on some systems where the user can't Capture a Pattern and save it to the default Patterns library, may have the same reason and this is the only thing I can think of at the moment that might be keeping you from capturing Patterns.


The fact that we're not able to add Patterns to the default Painter X Pattern library may not be a bug at all.

It could be the Corel Painter Development team set it up that way so when people Export and share Painter X Workspaces, the default libraries will always be the same on the receiving user's computer. Only custom libraries will vary from user to user. The default libraries, are read from the Painter X application/program folder while any custom items are stored in, and read from, the Painter X User folder's [Workspace Name] folder. That is, they should be, if the user plans to Explort and share their Workspace(s). Some items are automatically written by Painter X to the Painter X User folder's [Workspace Name] folder, others need to be placed there by the user.

If the user doesn't understand how Workspaces need to be managed and installs extra brush libraries or custom brush libraries, for instance, into the Painter X application/program folder's Brushes folder, then tries to Export and share their Workspace, those extra brush libraries and/or custom brush libraries will not be included in the shared Workspace.

The user who receives the shared Workspace will only have the default Painter X brush libraries and default art materials libraries in their Painter X application/program folder along with anything they've added to that folder which may or may not match what the shared Workspace originator has in that folder.

It's complicated, but if you work with Workspaces for a while, it begins to make some sense.... slowly.


Almost forgot to ask:

Were you trying to capture a Pattern with the default Painter X Patterns library loaded?

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just add that I have separate [internal] HDD for scratch.
no problems whatsoever capturing patterns and adding to palette in painter X
whether default library or no.

I always use my own libraries. I don't use the default library. I have done the tut. I can make a new library but I can't capture except in IX.

[see next post]:rolleyes:

EDIT: I reckon its something to do with workspaces and thats as far as I can go at present :(

Have to say I probably agree with handrawn here - I have noticed horror stories on the WIndows version of Painter IX.5 which a friend of mine has. I recently bought version X for Mac and though it has one or two bugs this is definitely not one on my Intel.

No problem at all to define a pattern and save it as a capture nor indeed to create or define a pattern. No problem saving out the Library either.

Have you tried to ininstall or reinstall the app? or if running Windows cleaning the registry? You may be running Vista which already is known to have issues wih certain software - iTunes recently was highlighted as one such.

Jinny,
Thank you so much for all the time and energy you put into addressing the questions posted in this forum! Your generosity is greatly appreciated!
- Andrew

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Jinny,
Thank you so much for all the time and energy you put into addressing the questions posted in this forum! Your generosity is greatly appreciated!
- Andrew

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second that - many thanks Jinny

Andrew and Steve,

You're welcome, and thanks for the appreciation. :)

I wanted to add that I am also having problems creating a custom pattern. Everytime I try to open the mover dialog box from the pattern pallete, Painter crashes. When I try to defne, capture, or add an image, no dialog box opens. I went through the suggestion that was posted here and was able to successfully add an image to the image portfolio, but cannot do the same with patterns because it won't even let me open a dialog box.

I have tried reinstalling Painter and have downloaded and installed all the upgrades but still no luck.

I wish someone could figure out what is going on.

Hi folks,

Reading through this thread again today, I realize that what I said earlier must have been based on my Painter X experience before installing the Painter X.1 Update.

I can't for the life of me make the Capture Pattern command open a dialog to save the Pattern or make the Patterns palette command, Add Image to Library work.

The only solution I've found is to create the Pattern by opening a new Canvas, using the Patterns palette command, Define Pattern, then saving the file in RIFF format and going to Painter IX.5 to add the Pattern to the Patterns library.

It definitely looks like a bug as I've tried everything I can think of and tried it all several times, in several Painter sessions spread over the time since the Painter X.1 Update was installed.

Guess we'll just have to wait for Corel to fix it.

I'd suggest that anyone having this problem write directly to the Corel Painter Development team at:

painterteam@corel.com


Cheers!

Thanks Jinny. Here's the workaround I found:

THE ISSUE:

I can't capture patterns. Using Pattern Mover crashes Painter X.

THE SOLUTION:

In a nutshell, do everything pattern related only if you have the default library open.

To capture a pattern:

1. Go to the patterns palette, and Load Default Library (an option on the same menu as Capture Pattern)
2. With the default library open, create the pattern you want
3. With the default library open, open the Pattern Mover and move the new pattern to your custom library
4. Now open your custom library.

It's annoying that you have to do this, but this works every time for me and I've seeing all the issues people have here.

Stuff I make using Painter

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Originally Posted by Jinny Brown

Hi,

Though I'm not able to drag a Layer into the default Painter X Image Portfolio (like several others who have the same problem), I am able to capture a Pattern and save it to the default Painter X Patterns library.

The tutorial below is not specifically for Patterns libraries, but you might be able to apply the principles to your situation.

..........................


A few people in the Corel Painter X newsgroup and in one of the Corel Painter the Official Magazine forums have been talking about a problem dragging image Layers into the Image Portfolio to save the Layers.

The person who asked about this in the Corel Painter Magazine forum happens to also be the person who found the solution.

Since she didn't elaborate and a lot of new users might not understand how to work the solution, I whipped up a tutorial this afternoon and posted it in one of the Corel Painter Magazine forums.

Though I wrote it for people having this problem in Painter X, the tutorial works in earlier versions as well.

If you're not using Painter X, you probably won't have the problem but the tutorial includes instructions for creating a new custom Image Portfolio. That you might want to do one day if you don't already save Layers there for future use.

Maybe a few people here will find it useful, too.

Corel Painter the Official Magazine

Forum Name: Hot tips/ A problem shared

Thread Name: Adding images to image portfolio....



Cheers!

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Hi,

Thanks for sharing your workaround. Hopefully, it will work for some Painter X users.

I'm using WinXP Home SP2 and Painter X.1.

Every time I try to open the Pattern Mover, Painter X.1 crashes, no matter which Patterns library I have loaded. It's been that way since I installed the Painter X.1 Update. Don't recall now if it behaved this way with Painter X.

Happy Holidays!


Jin