just another still life from me, composition not quite there but hope you like it.
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just another still life from me, composition not quite there but hope you like it.
I think it very nice Tim - Very Pretty Flowers too.
Oh ...it is so nice ..a treat to eyes.
Tim.
I like it! :) It is pretty and enjoyable to look at.
Many moons (and many threads) ago now, Jens Benthien gave some advice in a 3D thread to someone, about objects picking up colour from the environment they are in (paraphrazed). Which of course is true... The great thing is that his advice can also help things "come together" for any medium and subject matter.
Yes, I'm sure "rules" can be broken in all kinds of ways, and still work beautifullly. But when it comes imagery that is close to a "real life" view/perception of things (as here), the viewer is used to seeing things a certain way. Picking up some of the backgroud colour (if even ever so slightly) in to your main subject matter (in the highlights perhaps...) might make the different colours seem more "coherent".
The colour of the leaves and vase are also very similiar - making one or the other ever so slightly of a different hue and/or value, will make the two more seem more like two different objects. When it come to seeing what works, or doesn't work in your image, a quick trick is to "squint" -- if what you see is not important (to you) - change things around. Turning things in to grayscale might also help you see if you made (to you) things stand out where they were supposed to.
From the above writing it might seem like I have do "all that stuff" myself - well, I don't... Sometimes I don't "care/didn't have the time", other times I "forgot" - but really, most often my things are not this 'complicated' - and taking "liberties" with "things" ends up being "different" - or doesn't matter as much... :o (To me...)
In all - it is an illustration that I enjoyed viewing! Just trying to give you a few ideas to explore and play around with.
Thanks for sharing, Tim!
Gosh Risto never thought of that one, taking a bitmapped copy, turning that into a greyscale to see the tones. I will need to try and engrain that one into to the grey matter. Thank you!
As always thanks for the nice comments and suggestions. Risto, I've taken your advice, changed the color of the vase, changed the color of some of the leaves, adding a somewhat warmer color, rearranged and omitted some of the composition. I would be interested in your opinion of this one. You are correct that I don't strive for photo realism, I'm most interested in color and composition, so your comments were most interesting to me. Not being a trained artist, I make so many fundamental mistakes that I don't even notice. Thats what has always been so great about talkgraphics, it's like a free art class. Especially now that we are back to positive comments and suggestions again.
Absolutely beautiful!
Really nice, Tim.
ron
Very nice Tim. Risto's advice is great. Your second image appears to have more 'life'.
Your still-life images are great, Tim. They are so soothing to my busy mind!
Tim,
I think the second version is better for sure! The foliage has more depth/interesting colour, and the same goes for the yellow flowers. Dropping some colour on to the tabletop also spreads some of the "good stuff" to look at, around a little bit. :)
Pulling in some colour from the background doesn't necesarilly mean changing the whole colour of the vase - hey, it's your image! But yes, as is, side by side - the second version is better.
In both versions - the tabletop is too warm of a colour (IMHO) compared to the background. (It stands out a bit too much). Your flowers and vase are the main things you want us to enjoy - the other things around it should just make it look better - encourage us to look a bit longer/more.
For backgrounds in general - if you really look at still-lifes done by amazing painters/artists - there's nothing really "random" about them. You can use the really darks (and subtle colour variations) of the background around parts of the main subject matter that you really want to make "pop"... Same goes for shadows of things sitting/and around things on a tabletop.
Tim,
There's a lot of "lip flapping here" - again, it doesn't mean I could have done it "better". :o As I have mentioned before - it's a lot easier to stand on the sidelines and point (have an opinion), than actually doing.... Both versions look good to me :) - the second one is better. :) :)
I'm not a trained artist either... My whole working life has involved carrying a really big stick to be used on coders who are "hackers" at heart. Bringing order to "chaos-that-would-be" is what I have been doing. But yes, "art" I have always enjoyed - from papier mache to over-priced oil paintings...Quote:
Tim: Not being a trained artist, I make so many fundamental mistakes that I don't even notice.
Cheers!
I like the second image better also, but I have to admit that I was dissapointed that you changed the vase color. I was looking forward to seeing the difference if you added the background color in some subtle shading to the green vase.
Thanks for this thread though, between your design ... I really enjoy your vase/flower series ... and Risto's comments, we are all learning something.
Mickie
Very nice. One day I will learn to illistrate better than I do now.
Something like that is inspiring.......
Thanks all for the kind remarks, isn't talkgraphics great.........you start with something you like and end up with something your really proud of. This isn't the first time that this has happened to me, and everytime people are so encouraging and positive!!!
Mickie. I started this drawing with the background and was so happy that it came out exactly the way I wanted it that there was "no way" I was going to change those colors :-). I did keep a copy with the green vase and now you have made me want to see what I can do by changing the background, but I must admit, I love the brown vase!
tim
Tim,
Keep the background as is, but try using the green vase and have it pickup colours from the background.
Yes, what Bill said.
Mickie
I agree, i liked the green vase better...
Hi TimS, was looking at your still life and thought I'd try a similar drawing, as you can see, not so good, but it's my first attempt so will try and improve. My vase looks "flat" compared to yours, did you use a fractal plasma fill to give it "boddy" and not appear flat?Quote:
Originally Posted by TimS
Stygg2003
Absatively scrumptious both pictures
And yours as well Stygg, I missed it whilst writing first reply
Nice first try Stygg. Here is a little tutorial, hope that this helps, after I added the flowers I added some reflections that I left on the vase for you to see.
Thanks for the confidence boost parahandy, as S.Bode says,"draw on what you've learned" and I learned a bit more with that drawing.Quote:
Originally Posted by parahandy
Cheers Stygg2003
Thanks for the tutorial TimS, much appreciated, the reflections certainly give the vase more substance, will try it on my next vase, seem to be in my still life period at the moment but I find them quite challenging and you do learn a lot from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimS
Cheers, Stygg2003.