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finally, i found the site what i want..
when i met the problem with painter, nobody can
help me. but now i have the light of hope..
1. when i drawing my picture, my best painting trouble point is Depth of background image.
It always my serious point
2.plz help me how can i draw suitable background image .
my page is
http://myhome.naver.com/hong5911
hong
finally, i found the site what i want..
when i met the problem with painter, nobody can
help me. but now i have the light of hope..
1. when i drawing my picture, my best painting trouble point is Depth of background image.
It always my serious point
2.plz help me how can i draw suitable background image .
my page is
http://myhome.naver.com/hong5911
hong
hong
a depth question... boy, judging from your work i think you know the answer already. nice painterly and gestural work! there is no magic technique for backgrounds. you have a specific style of rendering which is going to force you to develop special ways to execute a background. you have the talent to solve it!
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stecyk66 e
Hi Hong and welcome to the Painter forum.
I also took a look at your site. I have to tell you that I agree with Stecyk66. I think you should let your style of rendering dictate your backgrounds. You have to determine for youself, what makes your image say want you want.(another reference to story telling).
Good luck with your art. I am looking forward to seeing some of it in the forum
Regards,
Greg.
You tend to have the same problem as me. I tend to focus too much on the main element of the painting and do not give enough attention to the background. As a result, the main subject does not 'connect' with the rest of the painting.
Perhaps you could focus less on one item in the picture, and give equal importance and attention to every detail that fills your picture.
You could also try to paint more quickly to stop yourself going into too much detail with one element. Also, if you do a portrait, try placing the person to one side of the picture to force yourself to look for something to fill this big empty space you now have. Make this background appear connected with the portrait rather than something thrown in as an afterthought.
Try leaving the main subject as an outline and concentrate on painting the background first. After you are happy with the background detail, then begin to paint the main subject in the case of a portrait. You need to see and paint everything within your imaginary frame.
David
My english is very ugly. but if you can understand
my intend..plz understand. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
I really appreciate every reply.
thanx stecyk66
thanx Monastic Bat
thanx David Gell
I like painting with corel painter.
but there's no proper book what i want.
the book what i want is tutorial book.
in korea painter book publish situation is too
weak. because user-figure is too small.
now i use painter6. & study PDF files.
but it is uneffective for me. only explain
button & it's function..
but now i have big brother..in here.
thanx everybody...
hong
Thanks for your kind reply Hong. Below is a very good web page which will hopefully give you many Painter tutorials to keep you very busy.
http://www.activeartz.com/P-Tut%20TOC.htm
Best of luck
David
"1. when i drawing my picture, my best painting trouble point is Depth of
background image.
It always my serious point
2.plz help me how can i draw suitable background image .
my page is http://myhome.naver.com/hong5911"
Some of the images you have posted are illustrations which focus on a particular object, and therefore need a vague background. For the larger scenes remember that a thing exists in its world and not by itself. This means you have to imagine the background in your mind as much as you imagine the object itself. This means more work. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Remember that Painter is designed for use by people already comfortable with traditional methods of oil, watercolor, pastel, and so on. Most of what you learn about painting oil can be used in Painter once you get comfortable working with the software.
As for books, keep studying English as much as you can tolerate doing it. All of the best books on software are in English. Most of the information on the Internet is in English too, so you'll benefit in the long run.
Doug Frost
Some of the links on the last URL I posted were broken, so here are some more;
I agree with Doug, work hard on your English so that it will be much easier for you to 'talk' on the web. Also, it would be very good if you told us which version of Painter you are using as some things are different. Watch out for these differences when you do any Web tutorials.
http://home.earthlink.net/~athene/painter/index.html
http://www.pixelalley.com/
http://www.seegmiller-art.com/
David
My majoring is commercial law.
& i try to get the license of lawyer.
i have never been tought education of fine art.
but i really want to be tought fine art by anybody
In the web, finally find good adviser.
thnak you very much.
david & frost, i really thank your advice.
...English..study ..best as i can..
actually my korean friend "Doodle" said the same advise of "frost & david
he is like a light of my picture.
visit my friend web site.
http://bnw-doodle.com
hong
Hong,
I have just looked at the website of your friend Doodle. He is a very fine artist and I am sure he will be able to give you lots of help as well. I found his 'bride' portrait very interesting in terms of the inspiration for the piece. When I look at this picture it almost begs to have words to explain what has happened (like part of a story). I suspect this is an illustration for a book perhaps.
I do not often get the chance to see work from artists in non-English speaking countries, so thank you for sharing this with us.
David
Hello
And for Hong
Chom pap gap shumy da
please forgive my spelling of this Hong my Korean
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the simple way for me to tell you to find your depth of field and the amount of detail to use is as follows.
one block you picture out with reference fileds
for the forground and background.
creat a layor trace your forground refernce field here.
creat a second layor and trace your background fielf here.
now split your layors and save them to separate
pictures.
you can now work on each and build your background to where it looks good to you.
then merge it with your forground picture
and you have a compleated work that is in porportion [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
hope this helps
Vel
Hong! welcome to the forum!
(by the way, get doodle to come back I remember his work was beautiful.... I miss hearing from him)
I have to say, my initial thoughts mirrored those of Monastic Bat and Stecyk66. I didn't see anything particularly wrong with what you had on your site. And truthfully, I still don't. I like the work you have on your site [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] . (and stecyk's description of gestural... fits)
But I'm not the one who needs to be happy with your work -- you are. So let me see if I can say anything interesting about the topic.
Here are links to some of your works that I think have the right idea as far as backgrounds go. .I would not change anything on these images.
Hong's morning image
Hong's Sigol
Hong's portrait 1
now here is my question is this one of the images where you are dissatisfied with your background?
Hong, is this one of the one's that has a background that bothers you?
You see, when I looked at that image, I thought... "this is so pretty and impressionistic. I don't want to see more detail in the background. .. more detail would marr the impressionistic style of this image". Hong, this is one person's opinion... mine [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
Ok so here is my theory on one of many ways to create a background:
Sometimes, the "subject" and the "background" contrast each other in level of detail and brightness of color. At least that seems like part of the truth.
So I look at that picture above and since it is a beautiful, impressionistic image of a smiling youth I ask myself, if I'm trying to create a background and give it less detail....well we can't get much less detailed than you have it ( having the subject be detailed and the background be less detailed is one of many tricks to creating a suitable background).
Or maybe you could darken the background colors. ... even that solution doesn't seem to fit. . . I like the image the way it is... to add more detail or change the colors would change the style of your image. .. and it is your style that I find so enchanting, Hong.
But in future images, I really like Vellen's suggestion of blocking you image. (this goes back to one of my other favorite topics... composition which is always a good way to discipline your image.
You may have fun looking at this thread from way back in this forum's history... don't know if it will help
It started as a posting from BR and grew and grew [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] . .. in truth, there is nothing specifically addressing backgrounds in that thread but there were some thought provoking ideas about art termsin that thread.
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I hope I didn't muddy the colors....
have fun, Hong, and thank you for posting =)
Athena
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your advise take me a good lesson.
thanks
hong