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Illustration started earlier this month for a booklet highlighting the effect the closure of post offices in local comunities is having, particularly on the older people who have been depending on the services supplied there for many years now. Not something I had particularly thought about before being asked to provide the picture I must admit. All Xara with a photograph for a background that wasn't a closed post office as I couldn't find one.
Derekhttp://www.indeptharts.com/attachmen...achmentid+4007 old people
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Hey Derek, Very nice! It is looking good. the shading on the womans face could use a bit of work. Seems too smooth...
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It's smoothed out on the Jpg but there is texture there, I dont want to over emphasise it as its for print and I don't want it to look like to surface of the moon. What stands out for me as needing work is the man's ear which seems to follow you round the room like the eyes in paintings. I didn't realy notice how bad it was until I posted it.
Derek
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Okay I looked at it again, His ear does need a little work. I think his pony tail and the whisp of her hair that is sticking out could use a bit of work... Too solid... should be a bit translucent, if not transparent.
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Link seems to be broken???
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Hmmm... It just worked for me...
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Old Folk
Reworked the hair on both characters and the 'ear', though I'm thinking it would be better to grow the hair and cover it up. I'd spent so much time on his hat, the ear took second place-I wish I'd given it those flaps that drop down and cover the side of your head.
derek
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Great work masque.
One thing though (sorry).
The collar on the gentleman's shirt seems to fold in on itself. The right collar tucks in his jumper, but the left collar seems to fold in, rather than out, before folding outside of the jumper.
Or am I not looking at it right?
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Why is the old woman winking and smiling? The post office is closing down and I would assume they'd be sad...
It's the eye that's bothering me, it's too young an eye for an old woman... and the buckteeth... bad dentures? http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Don't take offense on my comments, though. Just voicing my views. It is obvious that you put a lot of work into this.
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Shirt collar corrected. I'm not a great shirt wearer, couldn't see what was wrong with it but I new something bothered me.
Graphixman:
Teeth are as they were - old teeth I guess, pre-flouide? or inadequatly cleaned dentures?
I didn't want her to look miserable, its a post office closure not a bereavement. As for the eye, then maybe older more textured skin is the answer but it is already textured on the xara file, the jpeg is smoothing it a little.
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Derek... Looks lots better! Take a look at Eggs wookie tut. That might give you a short cut or two for doing the hair.
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Still fine tuning little by little.
Although the background is a photograph the drawing of the figures was produced from pencil sketches rather than photograph(s), which I find impossible to work from, hence the need for this post production editing to get it right, or a least right enough.old folk
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Hey! Derek, nice to see some work posted from you again here at TG!
I think it's coming along nicely! http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
Grafixman said: Why is the old woman winking and smiling? The post office is closing down and I would assume they'd be sad...
I was thinking the same thing? But perhaps the image will be used to illustrate something specific written in the booklet?
Thanks for sharing!
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Risto
Not really the wink was just to make her cheerful, like I said before the post office is shut, no one has died.
(Texture on the face is changed a little as I try to age her a bit more)
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Derek,
Ok, got it! Missed that response... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
I think the age of the individuals comes across well.
I wonder what it would look like if you lowered the sign a bit - to bring in more of the letters that get cropped? It's seems to be spilling out of the image a little bit? Or perhaps it is the dark line at the top of the sign that makes it look a bit "off" (as if the sign physically ends there?"
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Risto
Sign lowered or rather a border put round to cover the errant patch.
It's becoming an excercise in old skin which is very interesting, trying to arrive at a authentic looking texture and mottling without going over the top.
A few blemishes added.
Derek
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Hi Derek,
Cheeks look good, forhead looks.... too smooth. Need a laugh line or two at least.
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old folk]
Laugh lines on wrinkly forhead emphasised and a lining added to the old chaps jacket as he was looking a little cold.
Derek
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Looking Lots better Derek. Take a look at her glasses. Are there any hightlights/shadows on the frame? The lenses look good, but the frames look like they need a wittle work. http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
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John
I agree, the frames are more or less just a flat fill at present and need to be re-drawn from scratch which I have started on but it will have to wait a little while I finish a more urgent piece of work, I want to change the colour anyway.
Still that will give me time to notice other stuff that could be changed as well.
Derek
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Hey Derek, The base color and shape are fine for old folks glasses. Just ightlight it and shadow the flat fill, then change the flat to a fractal fill.
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Re: Old people
Last changes for now as the image has been approved for use as it now is. I think I might come back to this at some stage to rework certain elements but for now I have other things to work on.
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Re: Old people
Looks good to me for now... Take a breather, report back here in ten minutes for further instructions, ridiculous requests and other tomfoolery. :D